Liberals and Nazis?

Question

I know that most people equate the Nazi's with right wing politics but I believe that the left has more in common with the Nazi.
Can anyone defend my idea? Can anyone disprove my idea?

I am not trying to name call just curious what everyone thinks.

Priority raises another question…
The Democrats have many caucuses including the black and Hispanic caucus. Is this not a form of racial separation? Rep. Tom Tancredo, a republican has fought diligently to stop the racial caucuses. My opinion is that the conservatives don’t care about race. Race should not define people. Either you are hard working or you are not… either you are a criminal or you are not…
Nazis also liked to group people according to their race… something to think about
Please keep the answers coming!

Answer 1

The Nazi party was not considered conservative, as they believed in an all powerful government, and they were based on the German socialist party.
People ask about why the people didn't rise up against the goverment in opposition to the Nazi party, but it was because the government controlled so much that they were unable to do so.
Just ask yourself this simple question, "Who are the people trying to ban guns in America?" The answer would be Liberals. Yet in 1936 Hitler enacted gun control and confiscation much as any Liberal, with the end goal of complete control of their people, and to be able to round up and exterminate the Jews. This is not to say that Liberals here are Nazis, so we can cut them that slack, although I doubt they would do the same for conservatives.

The reason that Liberals think that the Nazis were conservative is that Liberalism has generally been a position of complete and utter weakness concerning military strength. But this fails to recognize that many Liberals have believed in Communism, while communism has been driven by military might; In fact, this was the only way to even pretend that such a system would work.
Liberalism simply disdains the fact that America can be the heroic force of Justice in some cases; They hate the fact that America might stand up to military force, but have no problem with others using military force. This is a contradictory position really.
There is also the penchant for Liberals to spread untruth for a cause that will give them control. The Nazi party spread horrible untruths about Jews and the handicapped in order to make it acceptable to kill them. Now Liberals are saying that unless we destroy the American economy via restrictive rules on the faux religion of Algorism (man made global warming) that dissent is unacceptable and any scientist who threatens their position should be fired. In fact, some have had death threats. Isn't this more akin to Naziism?

Answer 2

Why do people erroneously generalize an entire group of people based on their political parties. You know, when people can no longer differentiate between right and wrong, all they know is their party and they will defend it to the end by making complete ignorant comments like "Liberal want to help the terrorist" and "Conservatives are racist". But why would anyone make a comment like that? When there are good people on both sides. Yet there are also nuts on both side as well. When will we get through this whole "Ann coutler" and "Al franken" mentality. What one person from a political party does or say isn't what everyone else does or think. If a republican is gay, that doesn't make everyone in the republican party gay. If a democrat says a comment that insults our troops that doesn't mean democrats agree with him. We are all individuals free to think and voice our opinion regardless of what "political party" you wish to affiliate yourself with. Defend your beliefs before you defend your party..

Answer 3

Well, the core ideals of the Nazi (German National Socialist) party included racism, homophobia, and the concept of "Divine Right". The Nazi's also believed that governments should control breeding (eugenics), and opposed individual reproductive choice. None of these concepts are part of the mainstream liberal agenda, and in fact most self-identified liberals oppose all of those concepts.

Scholars generally agree that the Nazi regime was fascist, advocating an authoritarian, nationalist, totalitarian government with rigid controls over personal behavior. These concepts are directly opposed to democracy, and the tolerant attitudes of liberalism.

So, the Nazis are directly opposite every major political issue supported by most self-identified liberals, and liberals oppose every central concept advocated by the Nazis.

Doesn't seem like a strong overlap to me.

Answer 4

Nazis were fascists. Which liberalism is actually opposite of. Here is a breakdown of fascism:

Fascism is an authoritarian political ideology and mass movement that seeks to place the nation, defined in exclusive biological, cultural, and historical terms, above all other loyalties, and to create a mobilized national community. Many different characteristics are attributed to fascism by different scholars, but the following elements are usually seen as its integral parts: nationalism, authoritarianism, militarism, corporatism, totalitarianism, collectivism, anti-liberalism, opposition to laissez-faire capitalism, and anti-communism. There are numerous debates between scholars regarding the nature of fascism, and the kinds of political movements and governments that may be called fascist, however most scholars see it as on the political right or allied with right-wing movements.

Read more:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

Also, a little interesting tidbit for ya:

http://www.tetrahedron.org/articles/new_world_order/bush_nazis.html

Answer 5

Left wing has traditionally meant less government control, more popular control. Right wing has generally indicated more government, more authoritarian rule.

What happens in real life is that the left wing, in order to bring about changes that they see as necessary, empower governments to bring about those changes. As a result, many "left wing" governments (the old USSR, Cuba, DPRK, modern Venezuela, and to a much lesser extent the liberal parties of the US and the UK) begin to grow in size and scope, thus morphing from parties of the people into parties of government. Conservative governments and parties tend to be smaller and less intrusive, thus changing from authoritarian to more democratic and popular organs (when I use the word "popular" here I don't mean "well-liked" but instead mean "of the people").

Instead of a spectrum or an arc going from right wing, Nazism through democratic republics in the center to left wing communists and anarchists, I think of it more as a circle, with totalitarianism (Fascism, Communism) on one extreme, and anarchists diametrically opposed with Representative Republics, Socialists, and Monarchies somewhere on the circle between.

Answer 6

I am currently a college student, and the majority of my teachers are liberal. My history teacher was supporting the black student union, but what would his thoughts have been if there was a white student union? My english teacher, another liberal, only assigns books on the environment, always talking about the poor animals and the poor ozone layer, but she is pro- abortion. What about the poor dead babies? My political science teacher thinks that the Mexican American war was unfair, and we should give all of the land back to the Mexicans. Instead of the Nazi view of an world filled with Aryans, they want a world filled with minorities and animals. This will only work if they stop having abortions though.

Answer 7

let's see, Nazis built camps and held people without due process and no right to council. Isn't that a bush policy? Nazis required a national id card, searched peoples homes w/out warrants, another bush policy. They wiretapped at their discretion, committed atrocities in the name of patriotism, more bush policies. Now what was the question again???

Answer 8

Israel uses race , and they are often equated with Nazis.
Conservatives and Israelis share a separatist proclivity to punish those who are not in their groups or who oppose them directly - thus the Nazi symbolism.

Liberals and conservatives may share some traits but the nazis were infamous for setting their guidelines and conserving them - retaining them in defense against change (or improvement) ...thus they referenced tradition. Liberals are generally more forward or change oriented.

Answer 9

Huh? Do "Liberals", as you call them, exclude people from their party? Conservatives hate gays and poor minorities. Nazis and Neo-Nazis did and do the same thing. I don't know too many KKK members who are "Liberals". I don't know many Neo-Nazis in this country who are "Liberals", do you?

EDIT: You're right. Races should not define people, but this country still does it, and the Republican Party still does it. Let's take a look at Affirmative Action. California voted to get rid of it. Blacks at UCLA law school went down sharply. Like it or not, the glass ceiling still exist. How many minorities are CEO's of the largest companies around the world? The Republican Party is not inclusive as long as they refuse to allow EVERYONE a chance to make money, not just White American Christian Males.

Answer 10

i think of you're an fool. intense nationalism and racism? Hitler had the help of company tycoons, traditionalist/social conservative factors of society and professional-conflict nationalists, infrequently the liberal base. The German SPD, the Nazi's best rival interior the Reichstag, somewhat did share quite some cutting-edge liberalism's perspectives.