How many on the LEFT know it was the terrorists goal to start a civil war in Iraq and force America to leave?

Question

Your playing right into there hands! Wake up, stand strong and be an American! Sometimes that means doing what is hard and not taking the easy way out all the time. America used to have a stomach, a heart, and some courage. I know some of us still do, but what about the liberal left? Where is there backbone?

Answer 1

How many on the 'right' know it was Bush's plan to attack Iraq to de-stabilize the Middle East.

Answer 2

Okay,let me lay it out for you.

The war we should have fought,won,and come back from already is in Afghanistan.

The Bush Administration had Iraq in their sights well before 9/11,and intended to take out Saddam as soon as the opportunity presented itself.Read the 9/11 report-it's there in black and white.

They used the fear and anger in this country to justify a war using false pretenses.

Regardless of the motives of Al Qaeda,the Sunnis,the Shias,or anyone else,the simple fact is that this Administration has created the situation that exists on the ground.

To say the Left has no backbone is simply garbage.We know where the enemy is.He's in Pakistan,and still,all these years later,Afghanistan.His name is Bin Laden.

Answer 3

"Support the troops" provides a sound bite for people conditioned to regurgitate the propaganda of the warmongers without having to think. It channels their emotions - fear, pride, sorrow, anger, concern for loved ones, rage - into something that serves the interests of the power-holders. Its intent is to put the responder on the defensive in the same way as asking, "When did you stop beating your wife?” For the person who's never beaten his wife, this is not and answerable question.

“Supporting the troops” is not resisting the machinery of war, nor rallying people to stop it. Neither is passing a non-binding resolution opposing the surge in escalating the Iraq war. Democrats claim that they were fooled on Iraq when they voted to give Bush the authority to make war. They now claim that the evidence was either faulty or manipulated. I do not believe that they were fooled. They were spineless. I believe most Democrats knew exactly what the war on Iraq was about. It was about oil and global hegemony. The horrendous destruction of New York's Twin Towers was a convenient excuse for the war planners as it justified implementing one of the many Pentagon war scenarios and responses.

The problem is not just that the United States now has a mercenary army but that we are a mercenary society.

The problem is not just that our army fights imperialist wars, but that virtually all of us are in some way implicated in that imperialist system.

Liberals, Democrats, anti-war, peace and social justice people must come to terms with the war in Iraq, U.S. imperialism, and its mercenary society. We either support imperialist war or we do not. We either support the criminal behavior of the Bush/Cheney regime or we do not. The accountability door cannot swing both ways much longer without falling off. History will judge the United States harshly on the war in Iraq. It will judge us, the people, for making it possible.

Answer 4

There has been conflict in the Middle East between Shiites, Sunnis and Kurds for decades, long before the US got involved.

A strong central govt in Iraq was the only thing preventing civil war for the past decade. Yes, Saddam was a bad person, and the methods he used were brutal. But they also prevented civil war.

Civil war was inevitable that as soon as he was gone, unless there was an equally strong govt ready to take over. There wasn't.

So, if you want America to stay in Iraq until there is no more conflict, you better be prepared to be there for decades.

Answer 5

And how exactly would you know that? That assumption is absolutely ridiculous, you are saying that the "terrorists" knew it would take over 5 years, and that they somehow knew Democrats would take control of the house and senate! You are saying that they knew the US would be unsuccessful in Iraq, and a civil war would ensue. What, are the "terrorists" psychic now?

Answer 6

it was Osama bin Laden's goal for Iraq to become the caliphate of the Bush war there,,, your president played right into his hands,,, which are,, by the way,, still attached to his body,, somewhere on the Afghanistan, Pakistan border,, training more Taliban to whoop some American butt,,, all our military might should have gone after the mastermind of 9-11 in the first place,,, but Bush and his sidekick,, the "no aim" VP, Cheney had no backbone,,, they lied in order to run the other way,,, but that's the conservative bunch in the GOP you voted for,, so deal with reality now,,,, get your head out of your,,, news bulletin,,, Cheney shoots who in the face,, Musharraf,, bin Laden,,,oh yea his lawyer,,, his chief of staff Scooter,, did what,, he's going where ,,,,,,,, dot dot dot,,,, is Fox still on the air,,, oh lets just all,, go to bed

Answer 7

I agree. the kind one argument for the conflict is that it grew to become into to "make US secure". How are WE secure if we've troops (individuals!) distant places under mortar hearth extensive-unfold? How are we secure if convoys are nevertheless being attacked? How are we secure while a brilliant majority of our "national" shield is someplace else? As for killing a "entire element of the inhabitants like Saddam did" that makes us comparable to Saddam. i do no longer pretend to have the best answer yet in November i will vote for a guy with a distinctive answer than the single George W. McCain has. Mustangirl - i understand John W. and he's not the guy you need to be encouraging your brother to combat. have faith me. purely pass away it at verbal exchanges.

Answer 8

Since when is Sunnis and Shites killing each other my problem? If you feel so strongly about bringing peace to these two groups, why don't you stand between them?

It is hippie peaceniks like you that are ruining this country. The USA is not the world police force.

Answer 9

um ... there were no terrorists in Iraq before GW shock and awed the place Saddam held that fractious country under strict control (however brutally).

since there's minimal involvement of outside agitators (other than US troops, that is) it's not foreign terrorists causing the civil war in Iraq. a civil war by definition is a war between native factions.

3192 US troops dead
23785 US troops wounded
58269 Iraqi civilians dead (min)
655000 Iraqi civilians dead ("excess")

no end in sight.

Answer 10

So your plan is to get caught in the middle of the multiple warring sides...aka stay the course.

And believe it or not, no matter what we do the terrorists will claim victory. Witness the infitada. Both Israel and Hezbollah claimed they won and each side believed their view.

Pull out today...they claim victory.
Pull out in 3 years...they claim victory.

And your solution is to continue to change uh nothing.

Brilliant.