Firstly I am straight (dont know why i feel the need to share, but it sets up the story) anyhow...
When I was at school, we had to go to a (compulsory) chapple service in the morning. One morning there was a service about how homosexuals would go to hell, and you know the rest, the teacher was laying it on pretty thick...well anyhow, I was really annoyed and tried to get all my friends to walk out with me, but they wouldnt and i didnt have the guts to go on my own, I was already pretty picked upon cos I was smart and quiet, and I was only 16 and I was frightened ppl would judge me like that, I still dont know if I did the right thing, and I still feel bad about being a coward, but secretly glad I didnt as I would have got picked on, andI feel bad about that too. just thought I would share, It just shocked me, the things they tell kids, especially since 10% of them in the audience would be gay, like being at school isnt hard enougsure I'm ,Its nothing compared to you would go through
2007-03-11 03:11:53 · 12 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Cultures & Groups ➔ Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender
It was the first time I realised that teachers didn't know shi@t, and neither does religion.
2007-03-11 03:15:41 · update #1
yes, that was an incredibly LONG sentance, you might need to insert your own mental pauses in there...LOL
2007-03-11 03:36:27 · update #2
Well, i wouldnt feel too bad.
I dont think gay people asked you to be persecuted on their behalf.
Its more important to understand the bigotry and hatefulness they go thru regularly and maybe in quieter settings you can talk reason with your friends and family about it.
2007-03-11 03:18:43 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
You may have run into a person who is part of the Catholic Splinter group OPUS DEI. The passage they quote from stating that gays will go to hell is from the Bibblical Book of Laws. In it there is a passage that read something on the order of "IF man lays down with man, and woman with woman, then they shall be stoned"
Being a life long Catholic myself, I can tell you that the only part of the Catholic church that has not changed is the non-acceptance of gays. Those in the religious community (Nuns, Brothers, Priests) all will tell you it is against God's law. And bibblically they would be correct. However Opus Dei followers are the only ones that promote the fact that gays go to hell.
The oridinaries (As Preists in a parish are sometimes referred to) will not say anything one way or the other. No they do not generally believe in gay relationships, but they do not also advocate that they will go to hell upon thier death.
I have an Uncle who is a Catholic Priest so this is not new to me.
2007-03-11 10:27:53 · answer #2 · answered by mikeae 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
It was very admirable of you to want to stand up for your beliefs. Sometimes we are overwhelmed by the inconsiderate comments made by others, but society today seems to focus on the "outward" appearance. Your intuition about being picked on was probably correct. The fact that you wanted to voice your opinion but didn't succeed does not label you as a coward. You should be proud that you felt strongly enough about the feelings of others that you were willing jeopardize your own character! Sadly enough, being a martyr does not always solve the problem. Your intentions were honorable, and you are obviously a good person.
2007-03-11 10:31:43 · answer #3 · answered by fifi 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Bless your heart for caring!!!!
16 is hard enough without doing more things to stand out as odd. Yes, we are/were ALL odd at 16 so please don't feel bad about not standing up for the rights of others. There will come a time in your life when you are ready to stand up and shout to the world that it is not fair!!!!!
Consider the fact that you thought badly enough about it to try and get your friends to walk out with you. (they didn't) but at least you had the courage to say something about it to them.
Just knowing in your heart that there are major injustices in this world that needs to be corrected is a start and you are well on your way to being a wise and caring person.
Good For YOU!!!!!!!
2007-03-11 10:24:03 · answer #4 · answered by mom tree 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I wouldn't feel bad for not leaving, since leaving by yourself would have had consequences that would have made your life much harder. I am impressed you tried to convince your friends and realized that the hateful message is a terrible thing for them to say. I would like to add that although many teachers and people who practice religion are not good people, that doesn't mean what they teach or the religion they believe in doesn't have value.
2007-03-11 10:22:25 · answer #5 · answered by elvishbard 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Well Darth, it seems to me that you are taking all of this s h i t way too seriously. Lighten up. You worry too much about fear, cowardice, and your own pain and suffering. The school sucks with that mandatory propaganda crap.
Change schools, get interests outside your self, like building Habitat for Humanity houses or motorcycle racing. Have fun with friends even it it's video game tournaments.
Don't worry about that gay stuff, It will sort itself out.
2007-03-11 10:20:23 · answer #6 · answered by valcus43 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
First, I want to commend you for feeling the way you do. I understand why you didn't walk out. There should not be that pressure on a 16 y/o to show what the teacher did was wrong. If you were in public school, I would advise you to speak to the teacher and explain how the remarks are derogatory and inflammatory. Since Church's are protected entities, I would talk to your parents and explain how you feel about what was said. They might go with you to speak to the church about your views and it might change. If it doesn't, I would advise you to change churches. There are churches out there that do not promote hate. I would find one of them.
Again, you speak well for future generations. Kudos to you :)
2007-03-11 10:19:41 · answer #7 · answered by Nancy S. 4 · 2⤊ 1⤋
You sound like a nice morally strong caring young man.
You did the right thing, you need to pick you battles and you didn't pick that one, because you would not have won.
You cannot defend people all the time, and if there were gay people in that room and they did not walk out then you owe it to no one to walk out for them. Sure you could walk out with them in support for them but you do not need to jeopardize your self in a hate religious situation like that.
You did the right thing.
2007-03-11 18:42:49 · answer #8 · answered by Crampy Grampy 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Yeah, don't worry about it too much. It's hard to stand up for what is right in high school, it is it's own tiny world. Just try & remember to do the right thing when you are able to.
2007-03-11 14:01:50 · answer #9 · answered by Richkat76 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
hey mustard you may think gays are gross bit i think mustard is too so block your dot!
Dont feel bad it is in the past, Ive seen you in the religion section you can make up for it by keep giving the religious people ****!
2007-03-11 11:14:15 · answer #10 · answered by Kenny K 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋