For those of you who say that feminsts are man-haters, have you said anything positive about women?

Question

Some of you guys have done nothing but brag about brut strength, about how men are the ones with any important accomplishments, etc, while making shocking comments about women's vaginas, about their basic human rights, about thier supposed laziness, their periods etc.

I'm leaving women's studies because if I keep reading what men like you say i might just forget that that not all men all men are like you. This is not a Women's Studies forum - it is gender abuse.

Some of us believe in treating one's neighbour with love and respect. I do not know what kind of people you badmouthed men are, but you are showing yourselves to be lesser humans - not superior as you claim.

Very few if any of the women on this forum have come close to behaving as terribly as you have. It is nice you say goodbye to you boys, and remember that there are none so blind as those who 'will not' see.

Try relaxing CRA. I agree that insults are wrong - no matter where they come from. I don't know or care what gender you are, but you must not know what I am talking about. Women's Studies is hardly a segregated forum and you speak about what you do not know. Women's studies is an educational dicipline - and fortunately there are many pleasant people you visit, and this question is obviously not meant for them, or for anyone who doesn't know what i am talking about - someone who admittedly doesn't even visit there.

Further to that comment I do not think that women are superior to men, nor did I say that. I think that men should be the head of a household and that a wife should have deep respect for her husband.

They cannot respect men who are abusive however - it is to those men I have asked this question. Your accusations are unfounded and slightly irrational, and if you think that abuse of 'any' kind should be tolerated that is entirely your problem.

except that it is you CALLUM who are one of the worst - and your buddy TANK is a close runner-up.

Brain J.....here we go again - did you even bother to read what the women said that last time you asked that question?

Answer 1

I hear you-- and what I really hate is how men claim to be 'defending themselves from us misandrists'
No, what is happening is they are bashing us women, PLAIN AND SIMPLE, and they do it FIRST-
Some of us then AFTER get mad and try to counter what they say. Some of us disapprove of their nasty remarks, and we say so-- they then make the claim that we are men-haters and abusing men and the only reason THEY are mean towards WOMEN is that we are mean to them??
I mean how backwards can they think?

I myself am looking to join Women's Studies and female activist groups, but obvioulsy not through here. This is the place where people who DONT think like me come to tear down my beliefs, and pretty much anyone else's too.

I'll go to where I am welcome, to where I wont get mad at other people or be tempted to tear them down, and won't be trashed with ridiculous comments or accusations.

I mean I understand fully that this comes with the territory and that this is just the taste of what's to come. But at elast I'll have my peers, my group, and it'll be much clearer and more pleasant to deal with than single-handedly online with these CHUMPS. Sorry that just had to come out. :)


What men need to understand is this:
We DONT hate men, we hate their DISRESPECT and their ABUSE. That is all. Yes, it's easy to demean someone who behaves like that, so they think it means we're man haters. Really, we're "ignorance haters" and are outraged at the lack of compassion and respect. Even I call them names (like I just did) but I dont hate men.

Answer 2

I understand what you mean about leaving this forum. Every time I come on here I'm drawn in to stupid debates about how all men are rapists, the vast patriarchal conspiracy, and how testosterone is a 'poison'.

I've always seen men and women as complimentary in life. We are very different but we suit eachother almost perfectly. Personally I've got loads of great women in my life who really are magnificent people. It's a shame some people see us as polar opposites, like enemies in some big war.

Those idiot trolls really do **** me off though. It's best just to ignore them, they're only trying to provoke a reaction. Pricks!

Aaanyway, basically I think that women/men shouldn't be held accountable for what members of their gender have done. Hitler was a man, so was Gandhi, and I don't deserve to right to take credit for what either of them has done to change the world. All we have in common is a y chromosome.

Those are just my thoughts on it. Thanks

Answer 3

Thanks for reiterating what I have been saying all along. We have males and a couple of females who seem to loathe other women and feel afraid of them. Outspoken intelligent feminists have their accounts pulled and misogynists such as Happy Bullet (who messages others to brag about this) are allowed to continue harassing others. Cassius, Robinson, and Happy Bullet were all posting insulting questions and answers under Baba's name hoping to ruin her credibility. It seemed to backfire on them because their plan to divide and conquer did not work. This forum should be for women that seek answers and empowerment not abuse and bitterness. You men who can't get a date if their lives depended on it posting miserable observances to try and denigrate all. We as feminists must realize that when you oppress one member of society (and I am talking about all) that we harm everyone. You cannot tyrannize humans without it affecting detrimentally all of mankind. Look at how racism causes nothing but pain and sorror and likewise with religious intolerance. Thanks for an intutitive, intelligent, observation.

Answer 4

Have I already reached the point where I start to be slandered?

"Thanks for reiterating what I have been saying all along. We have males and a couple of females who seem to loathe other women and feel afraid of them. Outspoken intelligent feminists have their accounts pulled and misogynists such as Happy Bullet (who messages others to brag about this) are allowed to continue harassing others. Cassius, Robinson, and Happy Bullet were all posting insulting questions and answers under Baba's name hoping to ruin her credibility."

Why would I bother trying to imitate a broken persona? I have thoughts and beliefs of my own, and while I do like making people laugh, I'm not going to be using a fake account to do it. Do you have any PROOF of your accusation? No? Of course not.

Hell, Yahoo! can check my IP to see if I ever registered a "Baba Yaga" account; let them go right ahead.

Since SOME (READ: Misguided or misandric feminists) consider me a misogynist, I suppose I'll answer the question; yes, I've said quite a few positive things about women. Check my answers and you can determine that my posts are relatively calm and FAIR, but certainly not "egalitarian" in theme.

Answer 5

O.K. this is a message to everyone out there. Trying to point out that men are superior to women and women to men is completely pointless. Yes, men don't have a great track record for having respect towards women but neither will complaining do anything about it either. Don't get me wrong I get just as frustrated by chauvinism as the next woman but that doesn't mean I hate them for it. Their attitudes aren't going to change just because we want them to. And guys, try cutting all the bullcrap about the little women in your life unmanning you. It gets old. Men need women and women need men. Its not something that will ever change so why can't we just stop all this nonsense about inferiority. PLEASE!

Answer 6

Agreed. There's a huge difference between someone debating an issue from a non-feminist perspective versus someone who makes misogynistic remarks.

In terms of dealing with it, if everyone would just ignore these folks and not respond to them, they would eventually get bored and go away.

They obviously get aroused by the reaction.

Answer 7

I think some of them have too much time on their hands and they enjoy being a troll. I doubt any of them can survive without women, despite what they claim.

The reason why this is women's studies and there is no men's studies because it has always been about the men all along. So for those who feel enraged..stop complaining, you can post anything on men's studies here no one is going to be angry.

Answer 8

I am a self-actualizing woman who believes in gender equity, the right to choose, and equal representation of men's and women's issues. I do not hate men. Enough said.

Answer 9

Okay, first off. I'm not a woman. I wondered if you just dealt with some guy who really made your time go really bad. I'm sorry to hear if that was true. But you need to lighten up. There are women just like those men who badmouth men and make silly jokes about penises, but I guess it's considered okay. (SHRUGS). My main advice for you is keep your head high, and stay strong. Don't get so overly frustated about people like them. But it seemed vauge though of what you're asking or saying. Sounds like your angered, but what the hell caused you to feel that way tonight. I will check up on your message board.

Answer 10

haha saying something positive if it is demanded, rewards demands.

Saying something positive in response to negativity, rewards negativity.

After 40 years of rewarding negativity with positivity in a lame attempt at fostering good will, men are waking up to the old pavlovian concepts at work.

Poison in - poison out: Reap the rewards of your labour and deal with it, feminists.

p.s. - Interesting that the other feminists on here are associating themselves with baba yaga now, she's less subtle and manipulative that the rest of them and easily seen as an insane man hater. Obviously they like her viewpoint.