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me and this guy are not married. he thinks that if he signs over all his rights to the child to me that he dont have to pay child support. he said if i have no rights then why should i have to pay. Is this true? I am willing to let him see the child but he wants nothing to do with the kid. thank you

2007-03-10 05:00:48 · 15 answers · asked by Anonymous in Family & Relationships Marriage & Divorce

I LIVE IN MICHIGAN.... MACOMB COUNTY

2007-03-10 05:05:30 · update #1

15 answers

its obvious he doesnt want to pay support and is just trying to make this all go away (for him).

hes wrong.... todays courts will NOT let someone just 'sign over' thier rights, unless there is someone willing to adopt the child, such as a new spouse.

you will go to court, and more then likely the court will order a DNA test. you will return to court with the results, the court will calculate incomes (of both parents, unless one needs to stay home with the baby who is very young) and come up with an amount... the link is below; just click your state and fill it in.

a small tip, learn the laws in your state about child support; LEARN THEM ALL. its your best armor.

you cant force someone to be a good parent... sad but true. the way i see it, there are two different kinds of parents;

1) those who adore thier children
2) those who view children as a burden.

you already know which one you are dealing with.

btw, if at any time your child support caseworker (or dept) isnt on the ball, write your states Attorney General and your states Regional FEDERAL Child Support Office... to apply some heat to your case.

DEADBEATS
http://www.wantedposters.com/deadbeats_usa_a_to_f.htm
http://www.angelfire.com/creep/deadbeatparentssuck/
http://www.deadbeatjustice.com/list.htm
www.goodparentspay.com

CHILD SUPPORT CALCULATORS
http://www.divorcelawinfo.com/calculators.htm
http://www.alllaw.com/calculators/childsupport/
http://www.helpyourselfdivorce.com/child-support-calculators.html

CHILD SUPPORT LAWS
http://www.lectlaw.com/files/fam11.htm

LAWS
http://www.divorcelawinfo.com/states.htm
http://www.divorcehq.com/spprtgroups.html
http://www.divorceinfo.com/statebystate.htm
http://www.divorcenet.com/states
http://www.divorcesource.com/
http://www.divorcesource.com/info/deadbeat/deadbeat.shtml
http://www.divorcecentral.com/
http://family.findlaw.com/
http://family.findlaw.com/child-support/unpaid-support/support-orders-enforcement.html
http://www.divorcehq.com/deadbeat.html
http://www.divorceinfo.com/
http://www.divorceinanutshell.com/
http://www.lawchek.com/Library1/_books/domestic/qanda/childsupp.htm
http://family.findlaw.com/child-support/support-laws/state-child-/
http://www.supportguidelines.com/resources.html
http://www.supportguidelines.com/links.html
http://www.supportguidelines.com/laypersons.html
http://www.supportguidelines.com/articles/news.html
http://family.findlaw.com/child-support/support-basics/
http://www.spiesonline.net/deadbeat.shtml
http://www.childsupport-aces.org/index2.html

STATS
http://www.childsupport-aces.org/acesstatistics.html

FINDING DEADBEATS
http://www.wantedposters.com/skiptrace.htm
http://find.intelius.com/search-name.php?ReportType=1&
http://www.discreetdata.com/index.html
http://www.identitycrawler.net/people_search.html
http://www.efindoutthetruth.com/
http://www.peoplefinders.com
http://zabasearch.com/

FED AGENCIES
http://www.ncsea.org/
http://www.nfja.org/index.shtml
http://www.naag.org/issues/issue-consumer.php

REGIONAL FEDERAL CHILD SUPPORT OFFICES
http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/oro/regions/acf_regions.html

FACTS AND REGIONAL FEDERAL CS OFFICE INFO
http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/cse/fct/fct4.htm
http://www.divorcesource.com/WI/ARTICLES/beaulier11.html
http://www.acf.dhhs.gov/opa/fact_sheets/cse_factsheet.html
http://www.acf.dhhs.gov/programs/cse/newhire/index.html
http://www.acf.dhhs.gov/programs/cse/faq.html
http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/cse/newhire/fop/passport.htm
http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/cse/newhire/fop/fop.htm
http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/cse/newhire/faq/faq.htm
http://www.acf.dhhs.gov/programs/cse/extinf.html
http://www.acf.dhhs.gov/programs/cse/
http://www.acf.dhhs.gov/grants/grants_cse.html
http://www.acf.dhhs.gov/index.html
http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/region2/index.html
http://www.fms.treas.gov/faq/offsets_childsupport.html
http://www.govbenefits.gov/govbenefits_en.portal
http://www.fedstats.gov/qf/
http://www.fedworld.gov/gov-links.html
http://fatherhood.hhs.gov/pfs92/ch3.htm

SSI AND CHILD SUPPORT
http://www.ssa.gov/policy/docs/policybriefs/pb2004-02.html
http://www.ssa.gov/notices/supplemental-security-income/
http://family.findlaw.com/

FIND YOUR STATE REPS
http://www.usa.gov/
http://www.usa.gov/Agencies/State_and_Territories.shtml
http://www.nga.org
http://www.naag.org/attorneys_general.php

CHILD SUPPORT LIEN NETWORK
(some states work with them)
http://www.childsupportliens.com/

COLLECTORS
http://www.supportkids.com/
http://www.supportcollectors.com/faq.php
http://www.deadbeatdadfinders.com/
http://www.deadbeatdadfinders.com/links.html
http://www.childsupport-aces.org/index2.html
http://www.divorcesource.com/info/deadbeat/deadbeat.shtml

TAX INFO
http://www.taxsites.com/index.htm
http://www.divorceinfo.com/taxes.htm
http://www.irs.gov/taxtopics/tc354.html
http://www.irs.gov/taxtopics/tc422.html
http://www.irs.gov/faqs/faq4-5.html
http://www.irs.gov/localcontacts/index.html
http://www.irs.gov/advocate/index.html
http://www.irs.gov/publications/p525/index.html

http://www.fms.treas.gov/faq/offsets_childsupport.html
http://www.irs.gov/publications/p504/ar02.html#d0e563
http://money.cnn.com/2007/02/14/pf/taxes/do_not_miss_tax_breaks/index.htm?postversion=2007021411

REPORT DEADBEATS
WORKING UNDER THE TABLE
(in writing, to your local and federal IRS offices)
http://www.irs.gov/localcontacts/index.html
http://www.irs.gov/compliance/enforcement/article/0,,id=106778,00.html

SEX OFFENDERS
http://www.mapsexoffenders.com/
http://www.scanusa.com/
http://www.nsopr.gov/
http://www.familywatchdog.us/Default.asp

2007-03-10 09:36:47 · answer #1 · answered by Yvette B yvetteb 6 · 1 0

It depends in what state you are in. First of all, he won't be able to sign over his rights, unless you are married and the other guy is willing to adopt the child. No child can be left without a dad. Second, if you do get married and he adopts your child, then your ex would not have to pay child support because it would be as if he never was the father. If you later divorce, then the guy who adopted your child would be the one with the child support payments. Another thing, why would you still want him to see your child if he doesn't want anything to do with him/her? Eventhough you might think he needs his dad, sometimes it's better not to have a dad than to have a sucky one.

2007-03-10 07:28:54 · answer #2 · answered by Jessica H 2 · 0 0

You will have to check with the state you live in. In California a father CAN sign over all parental rights but he STILL has to pay child support. I don't know what the laws concerning this are in Michigan though.

2007-03-10 06:27:54 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

He can sign away his parental rights (his ability to have a say in the childs upbringing), however, he will pay support for the child. The support of the child is his obligation, 4 ever and always. Take him to court.....get the ball rolling quickly. Hopefully, you have his social security number and know his place of employment. Good luck and your child has to be better off without a father figure than this yahoo!

2007-03-10 05:13:20 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

well, first off I feel really bad for your child and you.He sounds like a real idiot with no love but for himself.Truth is, he still has to pay no matter what.By signing over all his rights all he is doing is giving up his rights for visitation and for having any say in where the child lives or how they live etc.
If I was you I would spare your child the bull crap of having to be hurt by this man and let him disappear.But still nail him to the wall on the child support.Even though he don't wish to be in the child's life he still helped bring it into the world and should be liable for helping be sure that the child gets what is needed till 18yrs old.
Good luck and I hope you find a good guy one day that will love you and your child both.

2007-03-10 05:12:20 · answer #5 · answered by vmaxer85 4 · 0 0

Absolutely UNTRUE, Sweetie.
The only way he can stop child support is if you get married and another man legally adopts this child. Is the father's name on the birth certificate? If not, you may need DNA testing to prove paternity.
This child doesn't cease to be his even though he wants nothing to do with it....assuming that it IS his child. Good luck Hon.
I live in Michigan too---know the laws well!

2007-03-10 05:07:12 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

I believe in some states that even if a father signs over his rights to the child, he still has to pay child support. You should call an attorney and get more legal advice though. Dads that just want to "sign" over rights make me crazy, must be nice to sign away your responsibility.

2007-03-10 05:04:46 · answer #7 · answered by michy 2 · 1 0

A parent can’t just sign over parental rights (which is a different thing than custodial rights). Termination of parental rights has to be approved by a judge. Even if Mom agrees to it, judges are VERY reluctant to approve it, unless it's for the purpose of adoption. They certainly will not do it merely so a man can get out of paying child support.

2007-03-10 05:42:58 · answer #8 · answered by kp 7 · 1 0

Yes he still has to pay child support, up untill you marry someone else and they want to adopt your child just because he signs over his rights doesn't mean he doesn't have to pay ask the friend of the courts office they will tell you..

2007-03-10 05:08:40 · answer #9 · answered by Mary O 6 · 0 0

oh wow! Yes he has to pay, and you better go to social services to go to the child support division and start a child support case againt him~ it is no charge to you to do this~ and if he does not pay (i know here in California) he can go to jail...and even get his drivers liscense revoked...they are strict about that here in California....So , I am sure in Michigan where you are at they do not mess around~
This sorry butt head of a guy is selfiash and you would not want a mean selfish jerk in your child's life anyway...that child u guys have together WILL FIND THIS OUT WHEN THEY ARE OLD ENOUGH AND IT CAN CAUSE PASYCHOLOGICAL PROBLEMS!! TRUST ME GIRL WHEN I SAY THIS~ My oldest daughter (her bio dad) has not seen her since she was 2 mos old and I have no idea where he is either and she is 15 now, but she has insecurities over this also and it is sad, but it is not her fault

2007-03-10 05:12:41 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

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