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or does it just give kids the status symbol they crave.

2007-03-08 21:02:21 · 16 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Cultures & Groups Other - Cultures & Groups

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Yes, ASBO's work for 60% of people placed on them. It is said that 2 in 5 re-offend.

I think it serves as a wake up call for many, a sharp shock that if they break the terms of the ASBO they face a £5000 fine or up to 5 years in prison. For 60% of people, this is enough to stop them re-offending, and so it must be a good thing.

It does not work for the 40% who re offend. A further ASBO here will only serve to ridicule it. If the penalties were enforced it might be more effective. Unfortunately the prisons are full, and these youths would never be able to pay a fine of £5000. It therefore becomes a status symbol for this group.

The answer might be to build more youth offender institutions. If, and I say if, bad behaviour can be tackled as a youth, the there might be fewer adults in prisons at a later stage.

But to answer your question, they do work for the majority. We need other ways to deal with those for for whom it does not work. I think an automatic 5 year sentence after "three strikes", ie., three breaches of the order, will give it teeth.

2007-03-09 20:34:44 · answer #1 · answered by JohnRG 2 · 0 0

Definitely a status symbol. You're nobody unless you have an ASBO. Yet another triumph for the labour party *rolls eyes*

2007-03-08 22:34:49 · answer #2 · answered by Velvet_Goth 5 · 2 0

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2016-02-10 12:01:54 · answer #3 · answered by Cherlyn 3 · 0 0

I think that anything that has a lie to identify it has absolutely no possibility of producing a good outcome.

I'm not from the UK. Nor have I ever been there. So, I am by no means an expert on it, but, a while back, while I was living in South America, where there was a much higher concentration of Brits in my English Speaking circle, is where I first heard the term.

And, quite frankly, I laughed in those two women's faces.

If a behavior is anti-social, by definition of the prefix "anti" meaning "against", and the root of the word being social, which means the interaction between two or more people, the only kind of truly anti-social behaviors are the behaviors that people do while they are completely alone.. like sleep, and bathe, and tend to physiological waste.

Oddly enough, however, the true meaning of the term has nothing to do with NOT interacting, but with interacting DIFFERENTLY than the locals.

ASBOs, to my understanding, are even less comprehensible, by that same terminology, because they are supposed to be orders issued by proper governmental agents to people to get them to fit in.. to PROTECT THEM from the effects of the locals not appreciating their behavor.. effects such as harrassment, and alarm, and distress.

In other words, my understanding of the legislation, is that an ASBO is to coerce a person into behaving like the locals, in order to keep the locals from harming the perpertrator of the variant behavior.

If that isn't just another way of saying "We're bigoted, we don't like what you're doing, and if you don't want one of us to harm you, you'd better stop behaving that way", I don't know what it is.

ASBOs take the concept of "When in Rome, do as the Romans" to a whole new flavor... that of "If in Rome, you can expect the Romans to punish you for behaving differently than they, 'cause they outnumber you, so if they want to hurt you they can, and since they also outnumber us, and could hurt us, too, we find it easier to make you change to become more like them, even if some of their behaviors you find to be abominable to you. That's how we keep the peace, is not by prosecuting the perpetrators of dispeace, but by punishing those whom the potential perpetrators of discord find they discord."

And you wonder why there are so many football game riots. (Soccor to those of us on the West side of the Atlantic). People are being trained by their governments that whenever they're in large enough numbers, nobody is supposed to behave contrarily to them, and that when somebody does, violent outbursts can't be helped. So, put those same people into an arena with large numbers of people cheering for the same thing, and they have the underlying belief that anybody booing what they're cheering for, can't be helped but to receive a violent reaction.

So, I think the whole entire concept should be scrapped for the less-than-fecal value contained therein.

Unfortunately, I must report my belief that ASBOs

DO

work.

ASBOs do exactly the kinds of things that the police have been seeking to be allowed to do since the dawn of time.

Lazy police, that is.

The authority to write and serve an ASBO gives the police the authority to blame the victims of violent behavior for becoming the victim fo the violent behavior. That way, the police can make sure that their involvement in the case is noted, which is a good thing for the advancement of their own careers. And it also decreases the likelihood of the police from becoming the victims of violence themselves.

After all, once they learn who the violent folk are, they know whom to avoid. Avoiding means not arresting, not prosecuting, and, in short, not being in that person's company as much as possible...

WHICH, ironically enough, is the true definition of anti-social behavior.

2007-03-09 00:51:49 · answer #4 · answered by Robert G 5 · 1 2

they do not work kids round here see it as a status symbol where i live the kids brag about them like medals instead of these asbos they should be made to do work in the community

2007-03-08 21:36:40 · answer #5 · answered by ? 5 · 2 0

Well, no. And what's worse, they are issuable without any of that pesky due process nonsense. The police don't need any evidence to issue an ASBO - only hearsay. That's a bit sinister for my tastes.

2007-03-08 21:21:02 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 2 0

they don't paintings. it rather is purely a central authority ploy to play around the crime figures. the subsequent step they tried became into the super ASBO and that they don't paintings the two. the subsequent step they'll attempt would be the super Duper ASBO and, marvel marvel they wont paintings the two!

2016-12-18 09:06:10 · answer #7 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

Do Asbos Work

2016-10-22 02:35:49 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Its badge of honour,for our people who are proud to be ignorant.Their are lots of these things roaming around out there.Unchecked by their parents,who are indeed ignorant, cave type dwellers.We have some sort of sub human race going on.Rather strange?

2007-03-08 21:13:42 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 2 0

Status. We shoul lock the little shits up for a while in Borstall at Her Majesty's Leisure.

2007-03-08 21:07:15 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 3 0

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