How do you account for these 9/11 facts?

Question

Watch this quick film:
http://www.pentagonstrike.co.uk/flash.htm

and reconcile this with the official version.
I'm having a hard time doing it and I'd appreciate some feedback related to the facts. Incidentally, the film from the Sheraton has now been released and what's been released shows nothing.

actually, i'm not brenda, nor am i able to make it through brenda's answer. i've seen it posted on many other questions.

okay, guys, i think i hear what you're saying about 'facts.' but i'm not talking about the quoted comments about the sound of the missile - tho i live near the pentagon, so i certainly read those quotes in stories early on.

what i'm talking about are the facts we each and every one can observe with our eyes:

the shape of the hole
the missing wings
the unscorched lawn

And the govt's fact that we can judge with our own minds for soundness: the incompetent pilots - i'm assuming everyone remembers that and doesn't need that googled - flies hundreds of mph 2 feet over the ground, and doesn't damage the highway which i drive on and can see has barriers higher than 2 feet that were/are untouched.

how do you make sense of the pilot making this alleged incredible maneuver and how do you make sense of the undamaged highway and no one but no one saying a plane flew past them at rush hour on the roads.

eric, your link doesn't work for me. please retry.

thanks, eric. I went back and figured out the problem. I've been reading it for awhile and see that there are lots of arguments to be made against this movie, which is essentially like the movie loose change.

I always ask people where the plane went, too. It was full of school children from washington and i never hear about commemorations for them. but i might be crying too hard by the end of articles to have seen it.

i believe osama did 9/11. i just also think that bush allowed it and possibly piled on.

Answer 1

Sheeple People who refuse to accept the fact that the U.S. Government had their hand in the Terror Attacks of 911 are just plain ignorant. It's impossible for Jet fuel or Kerosene to melt iron...LOOK AT THE PERIODIC TABLE OF ELEMENTS. Also if the floors collapsed causing a chain reaction it would have taken well over 90 seconds for the buildings to come down. They came down at free fall speed....9 seconds. There is no logical argument here. Explosives were pre-planted in the building. Case closed! Some idiots will argue that the fires were raging hot inferno’s...however if that was the case then why were there people standing in the holes where the planes impacted waving for help? Their clothes weren’t even burnt. Here we are talking about the biggest crime scene in the history of the United States...and what did Guilani do?
He scooped up all the evidence and got rid of it as fast as he possibly could. Sent overseas to be recycled? I doubt it...my guess is they dumped it all in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean.

If any of you people would for one second look at the evidence...it's a common tactic for a country to injure or attack itself and then blame it on the enemy. Then we can go get em. There is even a name for it...it’s called.. “Pretext for Military Intervention” Why don't all you wonderful wise little kids tell me why NORAD didn't scramble any fighters to escort the hijacked planes down? They didn't miss 1, but all 4!! Anytime a commercial airline goes off course without explanation, within 10 minutes, fighter jets are supposed to escort them down. Especially the air space over the Pentagon! Hmmm. How convenient. You think it was because Bush ordered Cheney to take control over NORAD the same morning of the attacks? Did you also know that the WTC changed owners about six months prior to the attacks? Did you also know that the buildings were worth more if destroyed than standing? That Larry Silverstein is the man who cashed out on the scam...walking away with billions? Did you know that there was a flurry of activity on Wall Street prior to the attacks, and the majority of the trading was “Put options” on the doomed Airlines stock? Did you know that there were multiple explosions heard inside the buildings from all kinds of firefighters, police officers and witnesses? Did you know that WTC Building 7 fell at approximately 5:30 p.m.? That the building did not suffer any major damage, but it somehow blew up into a fine pile of dust? Do you Morons even know what propaganda is? Do you know that it is also a well known and effectively used tool for the government to pull the wool over your eyes? Well, don't say we didn't warn you when your asking yourself 5 years from now "How could this happen?" It's sheeple people who make it easy for the government to do whatever they want. Educate yourself and open your eyes folks. This is real, and there are more than just a couple of us who think so. Go to google and type in Terror Attacks of 911...have yourself a look at all the choices there are to choose from.

Answer 2

There are so many inconsistencies here that need to be explained that THESE ALONE say it was an inside job. But also what really bugs me is the hustlers who always move in on a conspiracy theory and make tons of money off it. Then we have the "experts", not all but many of which are only interested in fame and fortune and trashing everybody who disagrees with them. They try to out scream each other on talk shows and this is "intelligent debate." Naturally the show producers love this, it gets big ratings and these people keep coming back time and time again. So instead of arrogance just once I'd like to see someone have an intelligent conversation about this. Is that too much to ask?

Answer 3

Lets just assume for a moment that everything in the film is true. That some smaller commuter jet or perhaps a missile hit the Pentagon......what happened to flight 77??

Answer 4

the in reality reason truthers placed up it truly is because they need that some small % of the inhabitants, that typically will have self belief something (fantastically the U. S.,) will particularly take the time to ascertain a e book or watch a documentary, imagine critically about illogical data and discover out for themselves that the "good" tale of what got here about on 9/11 is an finished fairytale. besides the undeniable fact that it truly is a few distance less complicated for most folk to bash someone/concern that they don't have any information of than to particularly practice themselves on it. to manage to all who bash truthers, flow again for your beer and your boob-tube that feeds you all of your recommendations so that you do not could imagine for yourselves. And that is coming from someone who used to imagine truthers were loopy until eventually he did his study and grew to develop into knowledgeable on the concern.

Answer 5

Facts?

This slick production is nothing short of unreliable sources (how many of the people quoted to have heard a "missile" do you think have ever really "heard" a missile?)
Oversimplified arguments, out of context quotes, cherry picked facts and a nice sound tract.
Perhaps you should talk to the surviving families of the victims - they certainly would have a problem with the "missile theory" since it was their loved ones on that flight.

Answer 6

It is misconception that 'the hole' on Pentagon wall is too small to be left by a plane. And there is no way cruise missile could have hit it.

Let me explain.

Pentagon had solid reinforced concrete wall where plane hit. This kind of wall is so strong that jet planes can't penetrate it, but its nose(pointed at end) was able to punch hole on initial impact. So, the plane blew up. And only tip of its nose penetrated this heavily reinforced wall. Now high rises can't have these massive concrete wall because it makes building too heavy. If it is too heavy than it can't stand tall.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread79655/pg1

Also, Tomahawk, which some claim hit Pentagon contains over 1000lbs of military explosives. If it hits side of Pentagon it will leave much much bigger hole(then 20ft wide), blowing up larger portion, and also such weapon will leave bomb crater on ground. This was not seen.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread79655/pg1

These 9/11 theories present highly 'cherry picked' information and dismiss any real facts as 'government propaganda and lies...etc.'

WTC7 damage is also mischaracterized. NIST initially reported fires, but LATER released more detailed studies including massive structural damages that included 10 story hole/gash and other various structural failures. So called 911 'truther' only mention that initial fire and not the 10 story gash that is included in final reports. Witnesses actually have reported WTC7 formed large 'bulge' on its side, it made creaks, odd noises when the building was evacuated.
http://www.debunking911.com/pull.htm



9/11 as Iraq War pretext? May be, but it's not what people think...

If I was planning fake attack to go to war with Iraq I would create fake IRAQI hijackers who follow Saddam and not Saudi hijackers who follow Osama. I would also produce FAKE confession to link Saddam to Al Queda and not shaddy intelligence consisting of couple of photos and single witness who is known to lie in intelligence community.

The US went to Iraq War without UN's clearance. Let see... so they can create 'fake' terror attack killing 3000 of its own citizens, but they can't come up with fake evidences that can earn UN's green light to go to Iraq? Which would also get us larger coalition force?

All they got is WMD thing which ton of gov insiders later came out to criticize and produced countless intelligence leaks into media that were designed to criticize Bush administration. Yet, somehow, nobody came forward about gov killing 3000 of its own citizens.



Truth is that there were many who pushed Iraq regime change since 1991 Iraq War. 1998 Clinton passed bill officially announcing our Iraq policy as 'regime change.' When the 911 happened DC insiders went to work and completed the goal which was set more than 10 years ago.

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Answer 8

I think it's funny that people are stating that whatever supports their own opinion are "facts." This video quotes a lot of people, who I will never come in contact with. Is there anything in print that would support any of this with a bibliography where I can follow things up and confirm what is being stated?

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Answer 10

No wreckage was found? Look at these photos http://www.911myths.com/html/757_wreckage.html. Notice the thousands of onlookers. Where these people bought off as well?


Edit. Try this:
http://www.911myths.com/html/pentagon.html Then click on There was no wreckage identifiable as coming from a 757 link,

Answer 11

Osama did the 9/11 attacks.

period.