One day i was been a bit stupid coming home from work late one night and you know what like, you just want to get home on time for a tv show so i speed up a bit, and bam i got puld over by cops in a big unmarked car, they said he could charge me 3 points for speeding and 3 points for anti social driving (i dont even no what this is or how he came up with it), which is 6 points an di havnt been driving for 2 yrs yet so i belive it means i can get put back to provisonal, i didnt sign anything at the time and they didnt even check my driving licence, wot do you think will happing and what can i do?? and also i know i shouldnt of been speeding in the first place so i dont want any answers saying stuff like "pff thats what u get for speeding u ****" !
2007-03-07 05:18:05 · 35 answers · asked by sco_jam 2 in Cars & Transportation ➔ Other - Cars & Transportation
Lol loving the answers cheers!
I didnt get any procedures, or bits of papers or sign anything and it was about a week and a half ago!
Also i live in Scotland sice laws are diffrent in other countrys!
2007-03-07 05:31:26 · update #1
Also what is Anti social driving and can i been charged for it?
2007-03-07 05:37:44 · update #2
You're right to worry about what points or a ticket could do to your license, not to mention your insurance costs. Normally when you get a citation that is a moving violation, once your insurance company finds out about it they will increase your rates. So not only are you dinged for the cost of the ticket fine, you're also going to possibly pay more per month for insurance!
Your statement that they did not check your license is interesting. Do you mean they did not ask you for your license? Or that they took your license but did not run a check on it?
If they pulled you over and did not physically ask you for your license and registration, chances are what happened was they saw you, knew that you were going fast but did not have the radar to clock your speed so they gave you a verbal or written warning.
Did they give you a written citation? If not, consider yourself lucky and drive more carefully in the future.
If yes, even if you did not sign it, you must act on it to take care of it. On the back of the citation there is a box that says that you contest the ticket and want a court date. Check that box or follow the instructions to contest the ticket.
I did a rolling stop through a stop sign last year and got a ticket. Went to court and found out that those who go to court get at least 50% reduction in the fine. Not only that but many are dismissed. In my case my state had a program where if it was your first offense you could do traffic school online via the web, answer some questions, pay the reduced fine and keep it off of your insurance. So by going to court I saved 50% on the fine and kept my insurance rates the same with no points on my record.
If this is your first offense in a long time, always, always go to court on a ticket. Even if you are guilty, go to court. If the citing officer does not show up, the judge will often dismiss your ticket entirely. If he does show up you have the right to subpoena full background information on the officer, his traffic stop history, any complaints against him filed by others. Did they clock you on radar? Subpoena the last time that car's radar was validated for accuracy and the officer's training record for using the radar.
No officer wants their complaint history made public, yet if you are cited you have a right to present this as part of your case. More than likely you will not need to bring it to this, but never be afraid of going to traffic court. It is not a big deal at all. Especially if there is a chance you may lose your license.
In your case it sounds really like all they gave you was a warning - perhaps because they were not able to get you on radar but knew visually that you were speeding. Eyes can judge that you are driving recklessly but they cannot clock how fast you are going so they can't write you a ticket for speeding. If they did, ask to see the radar.
Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer, only someone who has received a citation and been to traffic court. Consult a lawyer if you feel it is warranted.
2007-03-07 05:34:39 · answer #1 · answered by Matt 1 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I passed my test just a month ago, and I must admit that this "accumulate six points within the first two years and you'll lose your licence and have to retake your test" law must be pretty new. Two speeding offences at 35mph in a 30 zone and your basically screwed. If they get you for speeding and "anti-social driving" (I must admit I haven't heard of that one either!!!), then I suppose that's your six points and you could lose your licence. Doesn't seem fair really to penalise new drivers like this, but I don't think there is much you can do about it. Only footballers who can afford specialist lawers ever get off of driving charges, the rest of us usually lose any appeal and to add insult to injury usually get saddled with extra costs on top so as not to encourage others to appeal driving fines and offences.
You're kinda screwed. There's not much to be said. The only advice has to be for the first two years after passing your test, drivers need to be extra careful. It is all too easy to start accumulating points on a licence - I've got another 1 year and 11 months to go, but my chances are good since I've held a full motorcycle licence for many more years and don't have any points at all, and even speed-demon Jeremy Clarkson of BBCs Top Gear boasts a clean driving licence!
Mind you, anyone who says that they haven't been guilty of speeding at some point or another is lying. Most of us don't get caught, or confine our speeding to motorways and dual carriageways where it is reasonably safe to exceed the limits by a few mpgs. If you've been speeding in a 30mph zone on the other hand, they'll probably throw the book at you, and if they caught me speeding in the city, I wouldn't expect any mercy. You may well have to start consulting bus timetables or get your pushbike out or even buy yourself a moped. One thing you should never do is carry on driving your car if your full licence is revoked. If they catch you doing this you'll be looking at a ban and even more points. Your insurance will be invalid, and in some parts of the country the police will tow your car away and crush it.
2007-03-07 05:41:31 · answer #2 · answered by Mental Mickey 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Attend court when asked, you might be able to reduce the amount of points you recieve by paying a fine. Anti social driving isn't even a charge!
Depending on how far over the speeding limit you were, this will effect your charge. They will send you teh details via post as the car is registered to you, I'm suprised they didn't ask you to produce your documents at a local police station.
Did they issue you a speeding ticket?
contact your local police office about this, and explain your situation, obviously speeding for a TV show isn't what the court will want to hear!
Don't waste time with an excuse, accept the punishment and try to get a fine attached to reduce the points you might recieve. Show them your no claims bonus for 2 years, this will prove you have been a careful driver for two years, and that this is just a one off.
2007-03-07 05:30:20 · answer #3 · answered by Monkey Dancer 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
There is something called anti social driving, it was introduced as part of the Police Reform Act 2002(section 59, if you wanna look it up) This was set up to tackle boy racers I think, ie; speeding round car parks, making noise with pumped up exhausts etc...
Depending on how fast you were driving, you should only get 3 points, as long as your car isn't modded up too much, and it looked like you were going to a cruise or something! You may have just caught the cops on a bad evening, and chances are you will get just 3 points.
Best thing you can do now is wait for the letter to come through the post, if it doesn't and they were just scaring you (which they do sometimes) then hey-ho you learned your lesson, don't drive sooooo fast! (you tw*t!) ;)
Good luck!
2007-03-07 05:26:28 · answer #4 · answered by clarky303 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
What T.V show were you speeding to get home too. Top Gear!. Not sure whether you have been charged for offence or given warning, Plead guilty to speeding but not the ant-social driving on the fact that most people have points for speeding so most of society does it. Take this as warning to slow down in future
2007-03-07 06:34:37 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
i woulndt worry if i were you, unlikely you will get charged for anti social driving. If you are, opt to go to court and plead not guilty. How can they prove it was anti social, and remember you are innocent until proven guilty. If i were you i would fight it if you are charged for this, but i dont think you will be. Anyway, you can opt to go to court and ask for the evidence of you speeding? Can they produce it? If not, plead not guilty! And if you are found guilty of these offences, say there were ` mitigating circumstances, in other words think of a very good reason as to why you may have been speeding and you may get a more lenient sentance. I reckon you will be o.k., but make them produce the evidence before you admit anything, and if they cant plead not guilty. Goodluck, most of us speed anyway!
2007-03-07 05:29:39 · answer #6 · answered by eliot e 1 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Get a good solicitor who specialises in driving offences.
Did the police issue you with a "producer" ? It is a document which requires you to take your driving documents to a police station, usually of your choice (and usually within 7 days).
Get a good solicitor to look at your case. It could well be that you could be let off on a technicality if the police did not follow full proceedure. Added to which I wonder if the police have any hard (video / speedgun type) evidence from their unmarked police car as to your speed.
However I agree. Speed kills. Young guys, often newish drivers, come tearing around a blind corner near my house, which has the markings to show it as a new road, and one day they are gonna wipe out some little kids who often cross the road there.
And its "lose"... not "loose". Judges and magistrates hate any idiot who uses the word "loose".
2007-03-07 05:26:43 · answer #7 · answered by Narky 5 · 0⤊ 1⤋
If you've got no other points on your licence then you'll be ok if you get 6 as long as you don't get any more. Also if you weren't formally cautioned then it isn't legal anyway so I'd look into that if I were you and if anything comes through the post to sign don't sign it until you've looked into the legality of the charge.
2007-03-07 05:23:57 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
You can do nothing. If you loose your licence then catch the bus or get on yer bike. Sounds like you need to resit your test anyway. Speeding and being anti social well pff you deserve everything you got coming!!
2007-03-07 05:22:52 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
My driver's license was suspended when I was 17. I got it back when I was 18. The best thing to do, is go to the court house and talk to the judge and see what you can do to clear it up. If you wait too long, they will definitely suspend your license. My suggestion is to just talk to the judge, and don't wait for more than the waitin period that they tell you. Usually it's not before 5 days and no more than 14 days. Don't ignore it, it won't get you anywhere but give you a huge fine and a suspended license.
2007-03-07 05:24:19 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋