I'm starting a short-story for english class and I wanted my main female character to be royalty, but not a princess. Would a king's brother's daughter have any royal title?
Thanks in advance I really appreciate any input. :)
2007-03-06 07:49:43 · 11 answers · asked by pamiekins 4 in Society & Culture ➔ Royalty
It would really depend on what side of the family. Usually if it was his/her blood nephew from the male line they would be Prince or Princess, if it was his sisters kids then nothing. Such as Princess Anne's children do not have titles. If from the mothers side usually nothing unless she IS royal.
2007-03-08 01:14:55 · answer #1 · answered by tardis1977 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
In the UK the future King Charles has two brothers both of whom have daughters, and they are all Princesses, although Prince Edward's daughter is known as The Lady Louise Wessex. The sister of Prince Charles has two offspring who do not have titles because their father was a commoner who refused a title from the Queen, and Princess Anne refused titles for her children so that they could have a "normal" upbringing.
Note regarding The Lady Louise...
As a granddaughter of the monarch in the male line, she is legally and officially Her Royal Highness Princess Louise of Wessex, not Lady Louise Windsor, and, when she comes of age, she may legally use the title Princess Louise, if she wishes. However, when her parents married, they decided that their children would be styled as the children of an Earl rather than as princes or princesses with the style Royal Highness. This was so they could avoid the full burden of royal titles and the responsibility that comes with them, although, because she is a senior member of the Royal Family and a granddaughter of the Queen there will likely always be at least some interest in her, regardless of what she may be styled. In the absence of letters patent, Lady Louise legally remains a Princess of the United Kingdom, regardless of how she is styled in practice.
Note regarding Captain Mark Phillips, the first husband of Princess Anne, The Princess Royal.
As women have slowly gained more autonomy through European history, the title of princess has become simply the female counterpart of prince and does not necessarily imply being controlled or owned by a prince. In some cases then, a princess is the female hereditary head of state of a province or other significant area in her own right. The ancient meaning applies in Europe still to the extent that a female commoner who marries a prince will almost always become a princess, but a male commoner who marries a princess will almost never become a prince. The implication is that if the man held the equivalent masculine title, he would have rank over his wife without the necessary pedigree.
2007-03-06 18:41:06 · answer #2 · answered by sarch_uk 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Generally speaking, people don't obtain titles from their aunts or uncles. So the niece of a King would not necessarily have any title. Looks good for your short story.
Remember though, that they do inherit them from a parent and if their father has a title, so might they. The brother of one king is likely to be the son of the previous one and this will affect your plot lines. The current Duke of York will still be a prince once Charles is king and not because he will be the new king's brother but because he was the old queen's son.
So, currently in the UK, all children of a new or old monarch are Princes or Princesses even when there is a new King or Queen. Princes pass on titles to their children but princesses do not. The grandchildren of the king or queen only have titles if they are the children of the king's or queen's sons. The children of princesses are Mr or Miss etc.
It is interesting to note that when Charles was born, he would have been just The Earl of Merioneth because he takes his title from his father (Duke of Edinburgh and Earl of Merioneth) not his mother the Queen) if Philip had not been made a Prince of the UK.
So you have some options. The first is make the parent a Princess. The Princess Royal (Anne) has two children called Mr Mark Philips and Miss Zara Philips - at 9 and 10 in the line of succession, it is unlikely they will be the sovereign, they are higher up the line than Princess Alexandra (32). The second is make the parent a son but who chooses to eschew titles. The current Earl of Wessex is the son of a sovereign and has a child. She is the grandchild of a sovereign in the male line so is a princess, HRH the Princess Louise of Wessex. When she was born, it was announced that she would be called Lady Louise Windsor.
Great-grandchildren of a sovereign have no right to be called Princes or Princesses even if they are the children of sons of sons of the monarch unless their grandfather is the Prince of Wales. So you could always make the protagonist of your story a grandchild of a Prince/Royal Duke – Lady Helen Taylor is the grandchild of the Princes George, The Duke of Kent and the son of Prince Edward, the Duke of Kent. Prince George was the younger brother of King George. Prince Harry's possible future sons' sons will be in the same position.
Another option is to make her a step-sister. The Prince of Wales has a step-daughter and she is without a title.
2007-03-06 18:54:43 · answer #3 · answered by Adrian F 3 · 0⤊ 1⤋
As you can see from this extract the answer is Lady, as Lady Sarah Frances Elizabeth is the niece of the current Queen of England.
"In February 1960 The Queen announced her consent to the engagement of The Princess Margaret to Mr Antony Armstrong-Jones, and they were married in Westminster Abbey on 6 May. The honeymoon was spent in the West Indies. After marriage they made their home in an apartment in Kensington Palace. In October 1961 Mr Armstrong-Jones was created Earl of Snowdon and Viscount Linley.
They had two children. Their son, Lord Linley, was born on 3 November 1961 and christened David Albert Charles; their daughter, Lady Sarah Frances Elizabeth, was born on 1 May 1964. The marriage of The Princess to Lord Snowdon was dissolved in May 1978."
Hope this helps
2007-03-06 17:10:15 · answer #4 · answered by mcsolar81 1 · 0⤊ 1⤋
There is no set rules about this. She would probably be a princess or duchess depending what her father is. If he is a duke, prince, or baron, she would be a Lady. She might be the co-heir to a duchy making her a Lady. Chose Lady or Duchess; they sound cool.
2007-03-06 17:11:29 · answer #5 · answered by doughmuffins 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
She would be a princess, since her grandfather would have been a king. You can make her a Royal Duchess.
2007-03-06 16:40:37 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
She would be a princess.
To be a niece would mean her mother or father was a brother/sister to the king. ergo, a princess
2007-03-06 16:25:36 · answer #7 · answered by King de Puttenham 2 · 0⤊ 1⤋
I'm not sure a niece or nephew would have a title.
Why not use a dutchess as your character?
2007-03-06 15:56:18 · answer #8 · answered by Harry_Cox 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Lady Whatever her name is
2007-03-06 16:16:03 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
would it be duchess?
king=bro is prince=daughter is duchess??
king/queen
prince/princess
duke/duchess
2007-03-07 10:51:41 · answer #10 · answered by D.Allman 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋