Who came first,into exisistance EGG or HEN?

Answer 1

A team made up of a geneticist, philosopher and chicken farmer claim to have found an answer. It was the egg.

Put simply, the reason is down to the fact that genetic material does not change during an animal's life.

Therefore the first bird that evolved into what we would call a chicken, probably in prehistoric times, must have first existed as an embryo inside an egg.

Professor John Brookfield, a specialist in evolutionary genetics at the University of Nottingham, told the UK Press Association the pecking order was clear.

The living organism inside the eggshell would have had the same DNA as the chicken it would develop into, he said.

"Therefore, the first living thing which we could say unequivocally was a member of the species would be this first egg," he added. "So, I would conclude that the egg came first."

The same conclusion was reached by his fellow "eggsperts" Professor David Papineau, of King's College London, and poultry farmer Charles Bourns.

Mr Papineau, an expert in the philosophy of science, agreed that the first chicken came from an egg and that proves there were chicken eggs before chickens.

He told PA people were mistaken if they argued that the mutant egg belonged to the "non-chicken" bird parents.

"I would argue it is a chicken egg if it has a chicken in it," he said.

"If a kangaroo laid an egg from which an ostrich hatched, that would surely be an ostrich egg, not a kangaroo egg."

Bourns, chairman of trade body Great British Chicken, said he was also firmly in the pro-egg camp.

He said: "Eggs were around long before the first chicken arrived. Of course, they may not have been chicken eggs as we see them today, but they were eggs."

The debate, which may come as a relief to those with argumentative relatives, was organized by Disney to promote the release of the film "Chicken Little" on DVD.

Answer 2

First Hen Egg

Answer 3

The hen came first, and God placed it on the earth. However it is also theseable that the egg came first God placed it here and it hatched. This is a question that will never truely be answered.

Answer 4

EGG with a hen Embyro inside it.

Answer 5

It's actually a brain teaser. I know. But this has a scientific answer also. The calcium carbonate shell formed due to calcium reacting with carbon at warm temperatures. Inside it various cells (particularly the protien synthesis part) and the chalaza(it serves as a nutrient for the chick) served nutrients in the egg which gave rise to a small embryonic disc(embryo type disc) which eventually grew into a chick.

Therefore the egg came first. (egg is the calcium carbonate)

Answer 6

Both came into existence at the same time .So that the hen could sit on the egg.

Answer 7

of course it was the egg nobody said anything about a chicken egg right? so in conclusion the egg came before that hen

Answer 8

The egg ofcourse because from an egg a hen comes so EGG

Answer 9

hen laid the egg based on logic
Since egg cannot lay anything
Therefore, HEN came first in to existence

Answer 10

The chicken or the egg is a reference to the causality dilemma which arises from the expression "which came first, the chicken or the egg?". Since the chicken emerges from an egg, and the egg is laid by a chicken, it is ambiguous which originally gave rise to the other. When used in reference to difficult problems of causality, the chicken and egg dilemma is often used to appeal to the futility of debate and lay it to rest.

Purely logical (i.e. not taking evolution, etc. into account) attempts to resolve the dilemma result in an infinite regress, since an egg was caused by a chicken, which was caused by an egg, etc. Put simply, the reason is down to the fact that genetic material does not change during an animal's life. The solution may require an examination of syntax and may rely on verification from advances in modern genetic science.
Contents
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* 1 History of the problem
* 2 Assuming a chicken egg
* 3 Theological answers
* 4 A question of syntax
* 5 Reframing the question
* 6 Examples of cyclical cause-and-effect
* 7 See also
* 8 References
* 9 Notes

[edit] History of the problem

The earliest reference to the dilemma is found in Plutarch's Moralia, in the books titled "Table Talk," in a series of arguments based on questions posed in a symposium. Under the section entitled, "Whether the hen or the egg came first," the discussion is introduced in such a way as to suggest that the origin of the dilemma was even older:

"...the problem about the egg and the hen, which of them came first, was dragged into our talk, a difficult problem which gives investigators much trouble. And Sulla my comrade said that with a small problem, as with a tool, we were rocking loose a great and heavy one, that of the creation of the world..."

Various answers have been formulated in response to the question, many of them humorous.

As suggested by the alternative definitions and solutions given below, the chicken-or-egg dilemma has multiple semantic variants and can thus be viewed as an exercise in semantics. Regarding at least two of these variants, the field of biology contains decisive contextual information. Although the problem has been around in one form or another for millennia, making it difficult or impossible to know who first "solved" it, the biological information needed to resolve all of the obvious semantic variants has only been available for decades.

A modern analysis covering all of the major variants was authored by Christopher Langan, published in 2001 on the Mega Foundation website[1], and subsequently included in his book of essays, The Art of Knowing [1]. It appeared again in The Improper Hamptonian [2], was included in abbreviated form in a 2001 Long Island Newsday Q&A column featuring Langan [3], and was compactly summarized in Langan's 2001 Popular Science interview.

A CNN article on May 26, 2006 featured an analysis, according to which the egg came first [2]. The key criteria on which CNN bases its answer, involving relatively recent findings from reproductive and evolutionary biology, are identical to several of those cited in the prior analysis.

[edit] Assuming a chicken egg

In this case, the egg is assumed to be a chicken's egg. This is an obvious assumption since the question itself implies a link between the two.

If one assumes the egg to be a chicken egg then one must define what a chicken egg is:

* If: A chicken egg will hatch a chicken

Then a bypass is allowed: An animal that was not a chicken laid the chicken egg which contained the first chicken. In this case the egg came first.

* If: A chicken egg is the egg that a chicken lays

Then a bypass is allowed: A chicken (that hatched from a non-chicken egg) laid an egg (a chicken egg). In this case the chicken came first.

* If: A chicken egg will hatch a chicken and A chicken egg is the egg that a chicken lays

Then there may be an error of definition. If the definition of "chicken" used does not refer to "chicken eggs", then the chicken must come first, because without chickens there cannot be any chicken eggs.

[edit] Theological answers

According to creationists who believe in Biblical inerrancy, birds were created "on the fifth day" as adolescents or adults. Since there is no reference to the creation of eggs, they presumably were then made by chickens afterwards by the normal process. Therefore, the chicken came first.

Alternatively, for those who accept the intelligent design form of creationism, Eugene Volokh has noted that "In my experience, most creationists are also pro-life -- in which case, the egg is a chicken." [3]

[edit] A question of syntax

One can consider the question inside the framework of experience, making the question concrete instead of abstract: "The chicken or the egg - which came first?" "The chicken" came first - in the sentence of the question. If the question is phrased differently, the answer is different.

[edit] Reframing the question

It could be said that the question simply requires one to know the context. Most people thinking of the question automatically think of the timeline and it is in this manner that both the previous evolutionary theory and religious teachings contexts arise. Other potential contexts are:

* Having looked through a dictionary from front to back, which came first? - the chicken or the egg?
* When you walked through the supermarket, which came first? - the chicken or the egg?
* When reading the menu, which came first? - the chicken or the egg?

[edit] Examples of cyclical cause-and-effect

* Fear of economic downturn cause people to spend less, which reduces demand, causing economic downturn
* Fear of violence/war can make people more defensive/violent, the resulting tension/violence will cause more fear.
* More jobs cause more consumption, which requires more production, and thus more jobs.

[edit] See also

* Why did the chicken cross the road? (Problems with chickens beyond which came first)
* Catch-22 (logic)
* Bootstrapping (compilers), i.e., how to write a compiler for a previously uncompiled language using the language itself.
* Positive feedback
* Mother and Child Reunion

[edit] References

* CNN.com - Chicken and egg debate unscrambled
* ChickenEgg.org - Vote for which came first

[edit] Notes

1. ^ Langan, C M (2002) The Art of Knowing:Expositions on Free Will and Selected Essays, Eastport: Mega Press
2. ^ Langan, C M (2001). HiQ: Which came first, the chicken or the egg? Improper Hamptonian, June, 2001. Westhampton Beach, NY
3. ^ Langan, C M (2001), Chris Langan answers your questions. New York Newsday, September 4, 2001, Melville, NY