Do you think Jeremy Roenick is worthy of the Hall of Fame when he retires?

Question

Hes just a hair short of 500 goals. Almost 1200 points. I believe hes at 9 all-star games. Has been probably the most outspoken player and supporter of the game of hockey. He is in the top 4 American born players in scoring ever.

Hall Worthy???

Answer 1

Jeremy Roenick was a good player for a while, but...

1. During the 1990s, especially from 1990-1996, everybody was scoring 100 points (even Joe Juneau, Doug Gilmour, and Pierre Turgeon), meaning Roenick was more a product of the era than a transcending player.

2. He struggled in the playoffs and in international play. He has not won a Stanley Cup, mostly because he didn't put his teams (Chicago, Phoenix, Philadelphia, and Los Angeles) in position to do so. When the games meant the most, J.R. mattered the least.

3. There are too many worthier candidates to consider: Glenn Anderson definitely belongs in the Hall (he has similar numbers to Roenick, was a better post-season performer, and won six Stanley Cups), as does Adam Oates (also a non-Cup winner, but more productive in the post-season, and helped Brett Hull post unbelieveable numbers in the early 1990s) and Mike Gartner (700 goals, was screwed over by the Rangers when he was traded to Toronto in 1994 for ironically, Glenn Anderson. That moved helped New York solidify its Stanley Cup run). Dino Ciccarelli is a tough case: while he didn't win a Cup, he was an outstanding playoff perfromer, and scored 600 goals. He is deserving (much more deserving than the likes of Dick Duff, a Stanley Cup collecter who was never a great player and Bernie Federko, who never won anything nor mattered much).

To me, Roenick is a good player who had his moments in the sun (especially being the subject of a legendary Patrick Roy quote- in response to Roenick's criticism of him, Roy said "I didn't hear him because my two Stanley Cup rings are plugging my ears!"). Sadly, he is not a Hall of Famer.

Answer 2

The only bad thing anyone can say about him is his attitude. The hall is more than a popularity contest. Roenick delivered on the ice. Even Gretzky did not have a good couple of last seasons-not everyone is a Sakic. As far as not having a ring-who cares? Is that a pre-requisite? No. He sold tickets for hockey in the desert and had the balls to say what most players are thinking. He is in. He is easily one of the top three American players to play the game.

Answer 3

I believe he will get in, for the statistics you have already mentioned (but I think you meant fourth in American scoring - in North American scoring he trails Gretzky, Messier, Howe, Dionne, etc.).

Does that mean I think he deserves it? Harder question to call. I agree with other responders who have said his lack of a Stanley Cup ring, not having reached the 500 goal plateau, and his being an insufferable ba$tard counts against him.

I will be thoroughly upset if Roenick gets in and more deserving players do not. If Dino Ciccarelli does not, for eaxmple. CIccarelli has over 600 career goals (pretty sure) and he is not yet in - and he was a super-pest.

I happen to agree with the answer that says he will likely get in on the second or third ballot, or after several years of eligibility. If he does not get in as a player - I hope he goes into coaching or some sort of other position so he can go in under the builders' category or something to that effect.

Answer 4

It would be a much stronger case if he had a Stanley Cup ring.

What's bizarre is that when you consider Mike Modano's statistical career, who I think is a hof'er, it matches up pretty evenly with Roenick's. Modano has had more consistency with his numbers, but Roenick has three 100 point results to Modano's none.

Modano has a ring, of course, and has played his whole career with one organization which also looks good. Tough call. Ultimately, I'd have to say yes but maybe not a first or second ballot entry.

Good question.

Answer 5

i think of the two men will. In Modano's case, you gotta bear in suggestions who he replace into taking part in for. maximum of his profession he helped the celebrities (or North Stars) make the playoffs, and got here on the threshold of a 2nd Cup (earlier getting overwhelmed by the Devils in a great sequence). And individual awards, collectively as superb, in basic terms inform you many. he's been nominated for them various cases, and there is unquestionably a bias between the voters against American born gamers. He replace into additionally a great chief. As for Roenick, the guy certainly had the numbers (nevertheless they're decrease than Modano's using a shorter profession and taking part in on extra protecting-minded communities for a lot of his profession). comparable ingredient I suggested approximately Modano's individual awards stick to to Roenick to boot. As for Cups, he nevertheless made the playoffs many cases, and in basic terms one group could make the Cup each and each 3 hundred and sixty 5 days (look what share corridor of Famers in no way have been given their call on Lord Stanley's Cup). you prefer extra advantageous than one great participant (because of the fact the Caps confirmed the final couple seasons, nevertheless i think of issues may well be diverse this 3 hundred and sixty 5 days, in the event that they get the protection taken care of out). even nevertheless, any guy who went to 9 All megastar video games did so for a reason, and 40 aims replace right into a lot in the process the time he replace into in his best. So specific, i think of the two will make it to the corridor in Toronto

Answer 6

Yeah, not only has he put up good stats, but he is an interesting character that has brought intrest to the game in an era of bland players. Individuality is key in sports. A knock against Roenick is no cup ring.

Answer 7

Yes, I think he belongs in the hall of fame. He always played hard in international hockey as well as the NHL. He should think about a Don Cherry type career in the future. I might not agree with Roenick all the time, but I always enjoy his rants.

Answer 8

Sure he is, he is outspoken and obnoxious but hockey needs people who can sell the game. You can't deny the numbers and he has not always played on good teams where he could pad his points. He has dug hard for pucks and gone into the corners and also taken a lot of punishment for what he has accomplished. I don't like his style but you can't deny what he has done.

Answer 9

No he is not. True a cup ring would of helped. But with his poor attitude these past few seasons. If you want an American whose going to be in the HOF look at Chelios or Modano.

Answer 10

Yes, He works hard, he steps up to add leadership, and has worked through some debilitating injuries, what more could you ask of a player?