Are Andruw Jones and Chipper Jones both future Hall of Famers?

Question

What's your thoughts?

Answer 1

Currently, Chipper Jones has a career batting average of .304, 357 HR (67th all-time, 7th for 3B), and 1197 RBIs (12th for 3B, and 398 from leader G.Brett)

If he plays four more seasons, not hurt, or five hurt, he'll have the career numbers to put him on top of the 3B world, since this is the man with 8 consecutive 100-RBI seasons.

Unless he collapses, he'll make it.

Andruw Jones is a lot younger, but almost has Chipper's power numbers, with 342. He isn't a contact hitter, but his defense is definitely HOF-worthy. He's 158 dingers away from the 500-club and is just turning 30.
(Just to note, the only CF with 500 HR are Willie Mays, Ken Griffey and Mickey Mantle)

As long as they don't break down, they have good chances. Chipper for hitting, Andruw for defense and power.

Answer 2

As a baseline lets use Dale Murphy, the Brave currently on the ballot that appears to not be getting in unless the Veterans committee does it. The "Murph" had a carrer avg of .265, had 2111 hits, 398 HR, and .815 OPS and 1266 RBI. He was a back to back MVP which is pretty darn rare. I think what is keeping him out is that the career BA is that low and the power numbers aren't better. There is a reason the baseball phrase in my memory from my youth is "The 0-2 to Murphy, swing and a miss..."

At his peak Chipper was better than Murphy of Andruw. The 1999 NL MVP was because he was THAT good but it was just the one season. He also has one of the highest career OPS of any Brave at .942, well above many HOF'ers. He has 1944 hits, and a career avg of .304. All of those are very good, but I don't think it will be enough. He will be 35 this season, so you have to assume there aren't that many season's left, 3-4. I don't think he will greatly go beyond Murph in most categories, but I think he will have higher career totals in most. He will be on the fence, with a little better shot than Murph.

Andruw has current career totals of 1556 hits, 342 HR, 1023 RBI, .267 avg and .850 OPS. If he would have a little more discipline at the plate there would be no category that he wouldn't surpass Chipper. He is going to only be 30 for this season. He has another 6-10 years, and will probably not start tailing off for another 4-6 years. Assuming 8 more years, he should end up at about 2600-2800 hits, 622 HR, 1900 RBI. If he even maintains his current discipline he should be able to keep the career average above .265. Just about all of those numbers compare well for the Hall. The BIG difference with Andruw is the 9 Straight Yrs of being a Golden Glove, and a 2005 season when he was the Hank Aaron Award Winner, the Silver Slugger and the Golder Glove, but didn't win the MVP. The 2005 and 2000 season both should of been MVP years, but had years with other players have phenom years.

Chipper a big maybe, Andruw should be.

Answer 3

Chipper's injuries have made him less of a sure thing than he appeared to be about 4 years ago, but he still has enough in the tank to make it.

Andruw is well on his way to the HOF. Someone pointed out that his .267 batting average will bar his entry. If he wasn't a terrific power hitter, this might be true. But both Reggie Jackson (.262) and Harmon Killebrew (.256) are in the HOF despite their batting averages. Andruw has a legitimate shot at 600 home runs. I think that overshadows a less than impressive batting average.

Barring serious injury, I'd say Chipper has a 60% shot at the HOF and Andruw has a 90% chance.

As an aside, the notion that the HOF is reserved only for the best of the best is not accurate. Approximately 10% of all major leaguers active at any one time will make it to the HOF. That means, on average, 2-3 players per team. If that trend continues, and I see no reason to think it won't (the HOF historically has shown little self-control), we will continue to see players who were considered very good, but not the cream of the crop, get inducted. :-)

Answer 4

Good question

I am a Braves fan and I am sorry to say that I dont believe either one will be a hall of famer. Chipper has solid numbers, but by the end of his career he will most likely be on the edge of being in or out, remember Chipper only has 357 homers at the age of 34, and he is injured frequently. His .304 career avg. is impressive, but not outstanding. Although one of the best switch hitters of all time does count for something. Andruw's career avg is .267, I don't see any hall of famers with that low of a batting avg. He must improve that to be considered. Andruw has 342 homeruns and he turns 30 in April, unless he hits over 200 in the next 6 or 7 years, which is possible, with his measily .267 avg he will have no shot. Andruw has a better shot than Chipper, but both will have to start going on tears in order to be Hall of Famers. The only hall of fame they are guaranteed is the Braves HOF.....GO BRAVES!

Answer 5

Andruw Jones looks like he could make the Hall of Fame. Chipper is a good player but I'm not sure he has had the career that would stand out to HOF voters and they would vote him in.

Answer 6

Chipper had a great, long string of excellent seasons during his prime, and the MVP season is a plus. Additionally, his stats look like he did not get into steroids. Most importantly, he is a third basemen, and his stats are exceptional for that position, so he is a definite hall of famer. Andruw Jones is a center fielder, and his unexceptional batting average, along with no great seasons, except for the 50 home run season, he will either have to put up some great seasons during the rest of his career (he is still only 30 years old), or, he will have to rack up very high career totals, then he will not have to rely on great seasons or high batting avg or great slg. perc.; both of these he does not have. If he can rack up 3000 hits, 600-700 homeruns, he will make it.

Answer 7

Yes they are both Hall of Famers. Chipper has a MVP, world Series ring, 357homers should end up with 500 by the end of his career. Andruw is still young and already has 342 homeruns and should easily barring injury get 600 or 650. So yes they are both in the HOF.

Answer 8

I think that Andruw Jones has a better chance than chipper for the hall of fame. Andruw Jones has been more consistent, a gold-glove defensive player, and a silver slugger outfielder. Chipper Jones may not make it but he definitely is a huge candidate.

Answer 9

The Hall of Fame is for the best of the best for their generation. Andruw Jones has all the credentials, his only set back is that he is considered lazy at times and that his teams have under achieved in the post season. Chipper is a solid player and has been one for many years. But with all the issues in baseball during his generation, juiced ball theory, roids, and inflated numbers all around the leagues, I think he falls just short.

Answer 10

Chipper's injury-prone play makes him less likely than Andruw for the HoF. Although recently MLB has been a lot tougher on letting people into the Hall, Andruw (when he's playing well) is arguably the MVP of all of baseball. Chipper seems to be past his prime, but when he was in his prime he was Hall of Fame-worthy, and that will probably be enough to get him in.