everyone keeps saying illegal is illegal, and breaking the law is breaking the law. My wife came here illegally.....broke the law. she does not drive, she works pays her taxes via tax id number. we are expecting our 2nd child, both who will be Americans. As far as I can tell the only law that she has broken is coming here. how many of us can say that? I can honestly say i can not. so should she be punished for obeying every other law with the exception of one. I just wonder if breaking the law and the penalties that come with them should be applied to Americans. Do we send in the money for the ticket that we did not get for speeding because we did not get caught? it is still illegal, and is breaking the law. I have filed but it is all in the balance of geeze "the government" i know i will get alot of hate mail for this one, but illegal is illegal as we like to state here. let me know what you think. So shuld she be punished and what should it be?
2007-03-05 12:13:39 · 10 answers · asked by Tim 2 in Politics & Government ➔ Law & Ethics
Your statement is rather incoherent and contradictory. If your wife is here illegally then she does not have the right to work, so she is breaking the law on that front also. If you are so worried about it, you should start the process that would allow her to be here legally.
2007-03-05 12:24:41 · answer #1 · answered by Maynard_J_Krebs 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Let the punishment fit the crime. Since She broke the Law by coming here, why not use the same standards used in probating someone? She appears to be an upstanding individual with good morals, and values with a family to raise. Why not place Her on a program that's used for American Citizens when they're a First time offender?, It's called "Deferred Adjudication". When a person for the first time breaks the Law and it's not a heinous or serious crime, the Justice system allows for them to receive a Suspended Sentence and be place on Deferred Adjudication for a period of 2-to-5 yrs. and "If" that person completes the program, the charges are dismissed and the record cleared as if it never happen. (Let The Crime Fit The Punishment)!!
GOD BLESS/GOOD LUCK!!
2007-03-05 12:37:30 · answer #2 · answered by Chuck-the-Duck 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
With the car example what are you saying? That if you don't get caught you haven't done anything wrong? People shouldn't be driving as fast as they feel like.
Laws are made for a reason. Nowadays laws are all about morality, but about trying too keep america in the best position possible. Should we just say, to hell with it, anyone who wants to live in america thats fine, we dont care... Yes, the only law she broke is that one, and she sounds like she would make a fine citizen, and i probably would have done the same thing in her place. However, I wouldn't get rid of the law, and I wouldn't find her, her in particular not every one who breaks that law, in need of real punishment.
Yes, illigal is illegal. You'd best remember that. If you want to work to change the laws, then fine, but you're not going to get much sympathy when you knowingly break a law. Even if a law might not be the best law, it's not a bad law. There is no moral objection to it.
2007-03-05 12:27:35 · answer #3 · answered by M.McNulty 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
not true. there are degrees, and, i'm sorry to say, coming to this country illegally is pretty high on the list of big fat no-no's. how is it that she works? because she shouldn't be able to. unfortunately, the immigration system is broken and that's how she's able to work despite her illegal status. the fact that she pays taxes in no way makes up for the fact that she just should not be here, plain and simple. and her taking advantage of the fact that the system is messed up certainly does nothing to exonorate her. she is guilty of being here illegally. for that, she should indeed be punished. she should have to move back to wherever it is she is from. she should not be allowed to apply for a legal return for a specified period of time. she should have to take her children with her, because i never did buy that "born in america--you're an american!" crap, and since i'm making up the rules in this punishment she'll likely never actually get, i say the kids go, too. the children of an illegal are also illegals. you must go as well. you have harbored an illegal immigrant. {and before you go taking it too personally, i'm kicking her boss out, too. harboring is harboring.} none of you can come back until your time is up. love will get you through your stint in her homeland, which i'm sure is a great place, why else would she have left it? when and if you do decide to apply for u.s. citizenship after your emposed absence, the fact that you were good citizens otherwise should help improve your chances of getting back in. if all of you can pass whatever standardized testing is required at that point in time to become legal american citizens, then you would be welcomed back. and any further major law-breaking would be met with the offender's not being allowed to remain here--again. depending on the crime{s}, there would either be a new waiting period, or they just would be "permanently not welcomed back". and notice i said major law-breaking. not jaywalking or a parking ticket. remember, there are degrees.
so is this hate mail? it's not supposed to be. sounds fair to me.
2007-03-05 12:57:50 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋
You said it yourself, "illegal is illegal," and while you limit the law she broke to the one "by coming here," wifey still broke the law and you compounded it by marriage in an attempt to conceal her crime and make it a technical legality. If you did not get caught for the speeding ticket, you don't have to pay and INS will probably overlook that small infraction. However, we have far too many people as it is now for our country to support including your children and you had better be a rich man to support them as I sure as hell wont. I vote deport her and as a family you and the kids apply for citizenship in her foreign country if only to realize what you really blew by being asleep at the wheel while speeding.
Consider this as "fact," rather than "hate" mail as my tax-paying co-workers whom legitmately arrived in the USA agree with my sentiments are you are costing them as well as me.
2007-03-05 12:30:33 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋
There is "illegal" in terms of breaking the criminal law
simply being here without permission is not a criminal offense, it is an administrative civil law-one can merely be removed to their home country, not put in jail or fined.
2007-03-05 12:26:39 · answer #6 · answered by squeegie 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
We should also look at why the immigration is illegal. Immigration quotas (remember those ones we studied in elementary school) haven't changed since the days of Ellis Island, yet our immigration policy has changed significantly. And no all those immigrants did not speak English nor were they all protestant back in the day.
2007-03-05 12:31:31 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
The Iraq War is illegal why don't you get upset about that?
2007-03-05 12:16:33 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 2⤋
The answer is that justice is when other people get what they deserve.
2007-03-05 12:18:34 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
The IMMIGRATION category is what you want.
2007-03-05 12:29:36 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋