Does Steve Nash make Shawn Marion a better player?

Question

That'll be a no. If anything it's the other way around:
PAY ATTENTION:

Nash with Dallas
In 03: 17.7 ppg, 7.3 apg, 46.5 FG%
In 04: 14.5 ppg, 8.8apg, 47.0 FG%
Nash with Suns
In 05: 15.5 ppg, 11.5 apg, 50.2 FG%
In 06: 18.9 ppg, 10.5 apg, 51.2 FG%

Marion before Nash:
In 01: 17.3 ppg, 10.7 rpg, 48FG%(double double)
In 03: 21.2 ppg, 9.5 rpg, 45.2FG%(An all-star & playoffs)
In 04: 19.0 ppg, 9.3 rpg, 44.0FG%
Marion with Nash:
In 05: 19.4 ppg, 11.3 rpg, 47.6FG%(In 01 it was higher)
In 06: 21.8 ppg, 11.8 rpg, 52.5FG%
In 07 his fg is back to 47.7FG%

You can clearly see who numbers got better when they came together. Nash's assist went up, his FG% went up, points went up, & he never averaged a double double until he was a Sun. Before Nash, Marion averaged a double double, was an all-star, and been in the playoffs. As you can see, Marion with or without Nash numbers goes up and down. Nash haven't made a difference with Marion's game. Marion's is his OWN star.
Any questions?

Take note: If you take any key player from any lineup the team is going to struggle. Since a team loses more games without a certain player doesn't mean that player is the best player on the team or that certain player makes a team better. If you take Marion from the Suns they'll be missing someone who averages a double double in rebounds & points. The Suns would most definitley struggle without Marion. Who's going to make up for all them double digit rebounds & double digit points?

Answer 1

Interesting question.

If your stats says anything, it shows that Marion makes Nash better not vice versa.

Answer 2

very good topic to discuss...im finally glad some brought this to attention:

Nash is the catalyst of that team..since he does make everything go...but he isn't a better player than Marion.... Marion has always been getting those numbers even back in the day at UNLV... so versatile, quick, and unselfish...which is extremely valuable for a player of his size and length (wing spand).. He is a beast on both sides of the floor...
...and for those of you that want to talk stats,,, no wonder he has been rated the top fantasy pick for so many years in a row... he flat out helps you in so many ways.. other than veteranship and leadership....
...he gets the daily double double to go with a block and a steal a game... while getting around three assists a game while hitting at least one 3pt FG a game... i mean damn...no one else in the entire league brings that much to the table... NO ONE! ... Matrix was getting these numbers when the curse of Starbury was still in Pheonix...

Mr. Nash does have plenty of competition for an MVP year every year...but in reality...if you were to add either Marion or Nash to any team in the NBA.... Marion would definetly make the entire team better...he is just extremely way to versatile and probly on the defensive side..the only player he cannont guard one-on-one is Shaq...but then again..not even a handful of players can guard him...

and last but not least....for those that wonder... Marion is much less injury prone than Nash... and Marion can play any style in the league...

Answer 3

With your stats you clearly pointed out that Nash may not make Marion better but he makes him more effecient shooting the ball and scoring points.

Its not neccessarily Marion making Nash better either. Nash has to look no further than his head coach for turning him into an MVP candidate every year since joing the Suns.

If anyone should be getting credit its Mike D'Antoni. The guy saw what his teams strengths were, and he allowed the players to play to them. Nash is great at setting up an offense and running it to perfection, but hes also great in making things happen on the run. He knows when and who to get the ball to.

The thing that helps Nash look so great on the other hand, is that the players he is playing alongside know how to finish an offense as well as anyone in the league. Marion and Amare can finish a play or create them on their own. All 3 players in turn if not make each other better, they surely make the game easier for one another.

Answer 4

i'm going to genuinely take Marion over Nash. To me, Marion can play look after, forward or perhaps midsection. Marion may additionally shield, it rather is a significant weak spot for Steve Nash. Marion is a do-it-all variety participant who no longer basically gets you factors, yet he additionally dives for loose balls, executes captivating dunks, blocks photographs and rebounds like no different. He rather has no weaknesses to his interest and he's definitely in all hazard the only participant i'm getting maximum excited approximately looking at. The Suns shouldn't ever think of roughly paying for and advertising him in any different case it may be the dumbest determination that they could make. even nevertheless Steve does an marvelous interest of working the gang, if no longer for Marion, Nash does no longer look a million/2 as good without him.

Answer 5

Nash makes the whole Suns organization better. He provides a stable, all-star point guard to a team that needed that last piece of the puzzle. Steve Nash is one of the best assisting point guards of all time and he helps any team greatly.

Answer 6

Nash makes everyone around him better. You think its easy to share the ball with Marion AND Stoudamire and Raja Bell, while making 20 Points?

Answer 7

steve nash helps marion score points by giving great assists while marion can manage a great game all by himself.

Answer 8

He made him a bit better...but like you said Marion is a star on his own

Answer 9

well i think any person who steps on the court wit steve nash makes them a good player because nash has that affect

Answer 10

He makes Marion's game easier and funner