Winged Monkies VS Cave Bears- who wins?

Question

Fantasy faceoff II, round 6- a flight of winged monkies meet a family of cave bears in pitched battle- who wins, and why?

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Answer 1

I'll put my money on the winged monkeys! Firstly they're more intelligent than cave bears, secondly they are usually equipped with spears (if my memory serves me right). This is how it would go:

- The monkeys would be flying in formation approaching the bears' cave.
- The bears haven't quite came out of hibernation yet...
- Anyway, one winged monkey (the fastest) sneeks in the cave and pelts the sleeping bears with a wasp hive then sprints out with the family in close persuit.
- The monkey takes to the air.
- There is a breif second when the bears realise that they're being circled (just out of grasp) by the winged monkeys.
- The bears bearly have the chance to growl and swipe in the air before they are sheesh kebebabed by a dozen thrown sharpened spears.
- The bears being big and strong may have some life in them yet...
- So the winged monkeys continue to drop heavy stones on them (which they found near the cave...) until they stop moving.

Victory winged monkeys.

After acusations of being 'ignorant to the point of being delusional', regarding the carrying of large rocks... I'd just like to clarify that I never said they carried the rocks the whole way. Then again, if they could carry Dorothy then surely a rock half her weight wouldn't be too much trouble to carry and could do a lot of damage if dropped from a height. Surely there would be some stones/rocks around - after all they are just outside of a cave right?

Another thing - to the guy below. Fantasy and science fiction are in fact different. You talk about how the winged monkeys could only be the size of a child.... hollow bones etc etc (fair enough that makes sense in the world of science fiction) but, magic belongs to the world of fantasy - so they could in fact be heavier and stronger than what science fiction would allow.

Another thing... why would these winged monkeys try to fight cave bears hand to hand - you accuse them of having hollow bones, now are you accusing them of having hollow heads as well?

Haha - that's all fair enough. I just think that you're defending the poor care bears oops sorry I meant cave bears because your answers name is Lord-bear. So I accuse you of being biased towards bears. And again - if those flying monkeys can lift and fly away with Dorothy, then why in your opinion can't they lift rocks half or even a third of her weight.

In fact scrap that, these winged monkeys can strap dynamite to themselves and take your precious bears out kamakazi style for all I care!

So if they could carry one Dorothy then they could have probably carried 2 Shirley Temple sized moppets each right right? That's still pretty good. They could drop a few Shirley Temples (with bear poison inside of them), the bears would eat them - then die - brilliant!

Answer 2

Well if the winged monkies were in the cave then I'd go with the cave bears.

In the open Winged Monkeys.

Though watching winged monkeys rip apart Care Bears would be fun also.

Answer 3

i thought 4 one horrible minute u meant the Care-Bears!

afraid i've never heard of either winged monkies or cave bears, but sounds like it'll b a pitched battle.
toss a coin?
my money's on the Winged Monkies.
:)

Answer 4

Cave bears: the monkeys flying ability counts for little when they close enough to attack because the cave bears outpunch them.

Answer 5

Hey, when I was a kid those winged monkeys always scared the bejesus out of me.

Plus, monkeys are smarter than bears and know how to fabricate weapons (throw rocks, etc).

My vote goes to the monkeys.

Answer 6

winged monkeys easy. Aeriel assault, those bears don't stand a chance...actually depends on how small the cave is at close range the bears will have the advantage. maybe you can provide a few more details about the terrain?

Answer 7

Monkeys are smarter in the first place. Add flying and you've got a winner.

Answer 8

a flight of winged monkeys, six in total disturb a family of cave bears feeding at a berry bush...

the winked monkeys attempt a distraction tactic flying in and kicking at the bears before flying out of range, the bears swipe at the monkeys but are too slow,

the two adult bears stand in a gaurded posture watching the monkey as they circle around,

seeing that the bears are too big for a direct assault, half the monkeys land and pick up heavy rocks,
the other half fly at the bears in an attempt to draw them away from each other, the flailing arms of the largest bear catches a monkey in the gut, disemboweling it in mid flight, it lands in a writhing pile of agony and entrails,

the monkeys regroup at a safe distance, the ones with the rocks take of as the other two seek out there own stones,

the bears having returned to feeding on the berries are unprepared as heavy rocks rain down upon them bouncing off their heavy skulls causing them to rear in pain and anger, the smallest takes a rock on the back of the neck and is driven t o the floor in agony screaming it manages to pick itself up and does a runner in fear,

the two monkeys see it go and give chase.

the remaining bears are pissed now and start leaping up at the monkeys frustrated that they are still just out of reach.
the monkey s risk swooping down to get more rocks the bears charge, as they get close the monkeys lift off again and hurl the rocks at them,
a large rock takes the female in the face stoveing it in and she collapses to the floor writhing in agony her paws clutching at her crushed skull

the male flails around impotently raging as the monkeys give each other knowing looks and nods they land at a distance to collect more big rocks, the bear charges again, the monkeys burdoned by the wieght of theier load are too slow an the bear catches the closest. his anger frenzy he tears the monkey limb from limb until a rock splits his skull from above sending him to the floor in a heap of flailing fur an brains.

the two remaining monkeys gather more stone and race to join thier comrades.

the two chasing the little bear have been pelting it with rocks sending it into a flight of terror, as it flees blindly the monkeys regroup and begin herding the bear, forcing it to change direction as they throw stones continuously, blinded by fear and pain the little bear is herded towards a cliff edge

its panic causes it to go over, screaming in bearlike terror it bounces down the side of the cliff dislodging rocks causing a rock fall that pounds its body to mush before burying it at the bottom of the cliff

at liberty, the remaining four monkeys return to the clearing an finish off the female by the simple expedient of shoving a long stick into her wound, destroying her brain...

Answer 9

I vote for the flying monkies...they are intelligent, can use tools, can fly and have the wicked witch on their side! :-)

Answer 10

The Wizard of Oz winged monkeys didn't use spears that I remember, but they easily could, having opposable thumbs, but their spears would be much smaller than the halberds and pikes used by the Witch's Army - probably only being javelins three to four feet in length, and not well-made, as they would be basically throw away weapons. The monkeys are about the size of a human child, and are probably magical mutations, because in order to fly they need to have hollow bone structure like a bird, a genetic predisposition to a fast metabolism in order to shed any excess weight, weigh no more than thirty pounds or so, and have a whole set of extra muscles in their back, probably connected to their shoulder blades, to power their wings. Because their anatomy is geared toward lightness for flight, they would not be able to absorb much damage, and any solid, strong hit would probably break bones or ruin their ability to fly if a wing was hit. Note too that they wore very little in order not to encumber their flight, so the use of armor is out of the question. They are comparitively strong for their size, able to carry Dorothy in flight, but realistically they (a) trade off carrying burdens so as not to tire out one member, and (b) they really didn't have that far to go with her. Carrying "heavy stones" any distance for use as weapons is unreasonable in the extreme, and the assumption that such missiles could be guided with any accuracy or cause serious damage to a cave bear is ignorant to the point of being delusional. If such was true then a fifteen year old child could go hunting for grizzly bear with a sling and a bag of rocks, and still get mauled and eaten.
A cave bear, on the other hand, is twelve to fifteen hundred pounds of muscle, gristle, thick fur and skin, dense, thick bones and razor sharp claws designed to hook and grab prey. They are also deceptively fast, and can rear up twenty feet tall in a heartbeat (Ever seen a grizzly? Prehistoric cave bears were a lot bigger.). Even out of their cave the bears are in little danger from the monkeys, who swarm in initially trying to damage the bears with their paws, javelins, or maybe even tiny daggers. All they do is make the bears mad. One good swat is all it takes to kill or handicap a monkey, and any knocked to the ground stand little chance. Their initial attack repulsed, the monkeys would take to swooping in from above and trying in vain to distract the bears while other monkeys rush in from other directions. Again the attacks are repulsed, as more monkeys get swatted down, trampled underfoot, or bitten in half. Then the bears would rear up and start grabbing monkeys out of the air, dragging them down and administering fatal bites. Whatever monkeys are now left would quickly give up and flee, flying away at top speed.
The winner of the initial encounter: the cave bears.
Advantage: the same advantage you or I have when swatting flies.
(The Witch is not involved in this fight - or this question - to start with, but if she sends out more monkeys for a rematch she would simply stay in her castle and put the bears to sleep with a poppy spell the same way she did Dorothy, Toto, and the Lion. Once asleep the bears could all be assassinated by the monkeys who simply slit the throats of the helpless bears, assuming the monkeys don't all fall asleep when entering the poppy field too.)

Working from a logical perspective, the only Winged Monkeys to show up in fantasy/sci-fi that I know of were in the Wizard of Oz. And given the evidence of that portrayal, they WERE the size of children. They would not have been given supernatural strength by the Witch because if they had, they would have supplanted her normal troops in her Army instead of being used as scouts - and we can see that Evil consumes itself, because she had her normal troops enchanted to keep them under control, and by that evidence alone we can surmise that she didn't really trust any of her minions and would certainly not "superpower" them.. Again, as to why the idea of dropping rocks is ludicrous - ever tried to lug a cinderblock up a flight of stairs when you were eight - ten years old? Now imagine trying to carry two or three - dead weight - and flap your wings in an effort to simultaneously counteract the force of gravity and aim at the same time!??? And yes, I do think they have "hollow heads" as in not being big in the brain department - they're monkeys! Nowhere in the Wizard of Oz did we see any evidence the Witch had given them anything other than rudimentary intelligence either! As all tyrants know it is too easy for your minions to overthrow you if they are intelligent or not under absolute control. And I didn't name names - but my opinion of the rock theory stands - the theory is ignorant and delusional, not the person ; but perhaps my enthusiasm for this question was a little overboard..

Alright - this is my last word on the subject. Three cinderblocks may only weigh twenty-five pounds, but if you weigh only thirty or forty yourself with no visibly developed arm musculature I defy you to lift them and carry them any appreciable distance, much less fly away with them. And there is a difference between live weight and dead weight.Remember that Dorothy was supposed to have been a twelve year old girl, and would have been played by the moppet Shirley Temple, but a studio dispute kept her out of it. So the Dorothy you see in the movie is much larger than the original L.Frank Baum version, in which it took two flying monkeys just to lift a small girl (even in the movie it took two, I believe). I won't even go into the apparent tech level of Oz and whether or not the denizens know anything about demolitions. And the name is Lord Bearclaw, and really has nothing to do with bears, and a lot to do with Elfquest by Wendy and Richard Pini, as well as incorporating my title in the SCA.