do you beleive that objects exist independently from our perceptions???????

Question

if so what is your philisophical proff that these objects do in fact exist? our senses can fool us. like a vivid hallucination.

Answer 1

No I don't believe that objects exist independently from our perceptions.

I tried for a long time to prove that they did exist but I have come to the conclusion that they can't possibly exist in the way that we think that they do.

The only reason that this is bothering you is because you are looking at it in the wrong light.

Seeing it as something that is taking something away from you is frightening, but it is also misunderstanding of the whole idea.

Kaia's argument just above mine is a good example of the way perception tricks us into believing that it is all real.

Her comment, "I know my perceptions have to augmented by measurable and independently substantiated events perceived by others."

Starting this sentence with I and ending it with others tells me that she believes that we are separate and unique individuals each existing at a particular location in both time and space within a physical reality. This is the same presumption that Descartes started with that kept him blind to the obvious truth.

My question is, what if this is not the case? What if we are not truly separate like we appear to be?
What if this idea of augmented perception is just a mechanism to give the impression that this idea of separateness is true?


Love and blessings Don

Answer 2

In the God's creation, we have seen only the tip of the ice berg. That too, whatever we have seen not understood correctly and completely. This is what we call wrong perception and illusion and what you call as fooling of our sense.

Science is the tool. By digging the universe with this tool, we found, are finding and will find many things beyond our perception. Enough proof next to us. Animal & human clowning. Human brain and computer interface. With all these human being never ages or dies. Can you perceive? What we are seeing and probably perceiving is a single solar system. we are yet to see and perceive other systems and other independently existing objects in them. These are not philosophical but material proof. Good question. Thank you.

Answer 3

I cannot perceive the sun on the opposite side of the planet, and yet when I'm asleep at night, billions of creatures are experiencing the effect of that sun. Therefore, I know my perceptions have to augmented by measurable and independently substantiated events perceived by others. Otherwise, I'm living in a very small world of my own perceptions as the total reality. It would be a very small place to live.

Answer 4

science tells us that all matter is actually vibration and doesn't "really" exist as solidarity. Therefore I believe that objects exist for the purpose of our perceptions and give us the opportunity to have a physical experience in a material world.

Answer 5

kind of like if a tree falls in the forest with no one around does it make a noise? of course it does

Answer 6

Pink elephants again?
BTW don't touch the flame. See the moth.