Are you a Feminist of equality, or a Feminist of female superiority? State your reasons why.?

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& also tell what you feel about the other & whether or not you feel they help the feminism movement, & why.

Baba Yaga - (continued) This is why some people today either feel that racism doesn't exist anymore, or believe only a small amount of people are racist. & at the same time, so many people say they've experienced racism undeniably. Some of those people are simply paranoid & making false allegations. However, some of those people are telling the truth.

It's the same as you who feels there are no female feminists who are for female superiority. & the same as some people who believe only a very tiny amount of them are. & all at the same time so many men (& even women who feel bad for their husbands, brothers, etc) say they've experienced misandry (or sexism against men, or female superiorty, call it what ever you want) from feminists undeniably.

Again, some people are simply paranoid & making false allegations. However, some of those people are telling the truth.

You have to see & open your eyes if you want absolute evidence. This question is for those who acknowledge it.

Baba Yaga - Proving that some feminists are for female superiority is the same as proving that some white people who claim that their not racist, are racist.

The undeniable proof when you see, for example, a white person say they hate blacks & procede to treat blacks as inferior. The same applies to a female who says they're a feminist, & say they hate men, & procede to treat men as inferior.

In both of these examples, they both say what they feel, which can always be argued since words are not action, & words & literature can always be misinterpreted. However, they then follow through with action by treating those that they say they hate, as inferior. Once the action happens, the proof is absolute.

However it's rare to catch these types of people doing so in a setting where enough people are watching in order to record it & say, "hey, that person who said their not racist, is actually racist like I said, look at the evidence".

This is why.........(read below)......

Baba Yaga - EDIT, I made a mistake & posted my first response last, so read the last statement first, and the first statment last.

Sorry for the confusion.

transitangst - You mentioned,

"This "superiority" b.s. is the only one people focus on because people are so desperate to give feminism a bad name because it threatens the status quo."

Correction...some, not all, people focus on the superiority aspect because of what you say. Some people focus on this aspect because thats the only type of feminists they experience. Some other people focus on it more because they disagree with discrimination, which is what the belief of superiority of any sex or race is. Some of these people agree with feminism, but disagree with misandry.

Answer 1

You, Baba Yaga, are all the proof one needs to show that there are female supremacists amongst feminists. Every other word out your mouth is another insult on why men are bad people. Want to prove me wrong? I know you're absolutely seething right now with feminist furor; give us a link to the last comment you stated that women did indeed have something above men, and it was unjustly so.

Answer 2

Real feminism is about equality. Anyone who calls herself a feminist but wants to opress/bash men is not a true feminist. There are male feminists out there too, probably the first one was Manet, the artist who painted Olympia. I would say John Lennon was one too. I think its a shame that certain feminist groups/agendas give feminsm such a bad name, to the point where young girs would way rather be called a '*****' or a 'ho' than a 'feminist' (I teach highschool, trust me on this one, as hard as it is to believe...) I consider myself a feminist because I think we as women should have all the same rights men do, no more, no less. We should be free to vote, which we are thanks to the early feminists. We should make the same money as men do for doing the same job. We should not be discriminated against in the workplace because we want to have children. And we should not be dismissed by the justice system as people that it is okay to rape and abuse. Anyone who has a problem with this last statement, feel free to exlain to me another reason why rapists get away with thier crimes with such minimal, if any, punishment.

Answer 3

Yu, do you see how adamant the egalitarian type of feminist is? They leave no room for female supremacists in their neighborhood. Simply a construct of the media? Pa-lease!

If a man claimed to be a male supremacist, he'd receive the worst type of reaction, but a female supremacist might at the most be gently considered misguided.

I believe that both male and female should be treated as equals in (I'll guess) 98% of the day's events. However, there are things which ought to be different. I"m not an advocate of androgyny, so I can't say I'm a complete egalitarian. I do think there are ways in which men tend to be superior and other ways in which women tend to be superior. I couldn't hold such a position and expect to succeed as a politician or a professor in a major university though.

I'm not sure what that makes me. A 98% egalitarian and a 2% supremacist but certainly not an androgynist?

Answer 4

I hope for male/female equality someday (I'm looking at the world, not just the United States, since so many women and men world-wide are uneducated and poor). Female superiority is an illusion if anyone thinks that's possible.

I think every change movement has it's radicals, that not many people agree with, but who get the attention. The radicals are both useful and hurtful. Even though the radicals are misguided or angry, they do make it more obvious that the reasonable people's requests are needed. On the other hand, the words and actions of a few angry people can be used against the people who really need the changes made. Also, the radicals can be used by their opponents to scare people off who actually agree with the change movement's goals. If you look at the history of the women's suffrage movement, many of the same arguments used against feminism today were used over 100 years ago against the women's suffrage movement. Change movements bring out both the best and worst in people.

Answer 5

Feminist of equality; equal opportunities, equal respect in every institution and in public, equal treatment, and removal of stigmas from those who break tradition (including men who choose to take on stereotypically "feminine" roles). That's what REAL feminism is. This "superiority" b.s. is the only one people focus on because people are so desperate to give feminism a bad name because it threatens the status quo. I don't support women who think they're better than men, just as I DON'T support men who think they're better than women.

Answer 6

Baba Yaga is so in denial it's incredible. She doesn't think there are any "extremists" within feminism -- she thinks all feminists are on the same path with the same thoughts and goals.

There are PLENTY of self-proclaimed "feminists" that advocate the ball-busting of men, the superiority over men; not to mention many feminists that are actually lesbian.

EDIT:
Baba Yaga, you asked for claims to support what I said about lesbians and man-haters claiming to be feminists. You obviously think (or want to think) that there are no lesbians or and/or man-hating women in the feminist movement, and never were.

Allow me to prove you wrong again:

One prime example is Valerie Solanas. She was a self-proclaimed feminist that wrote the S.C.U.M. Manifesto (Society For Cutting Up Men). Not only was she a man-hater, but she was a lesbian as well.

Read her SCUM Manifesto to see the twisted, evil, misandrist connotations that litter her mind: And this was a so-called "feminist":

http://www.womynkind.org/scum.htm...

You and Valerie Solanas share a lot in common.

Answer 7

Equality.
Why? Anything else would be wrong.
While I don't think that most feminists are the "superior" sort, I think that those that are, are misguided, and are missing the point.
I don't think their extreme views help the real purpose behind the movement.

Answer 8

I'm a pro-equality (liberal or egalitarian) feminist. I don't believe in the blatant superiority of one group over another in any walk of like. (Although, I must admit, a slight economic hierarchy is the best system in society.) The more radical feminists have a lot of good ideas, but many of them are so obsessed with their cause that they take a lot of things the wrong way.

Answer 9

I am a feminist. I support equality. I think that the "superiority" feminist is mostly a construct of the media. I'm not saying that there are NO women out there like that - but it's not what feminism is about.

Answer 10

There must be some physical restraint in the brains of feminists that deny them the ability to distinguish between equality and supremacy.

That's all I have to say after reading some of the answers to this question, although I'm not exactly surprised.