Do cons actually believe all bush-bashers are liberals, or do they just imply that unintentionally?

Question

For those cons who did not realize, this may come as a shock.
Our president's approval rating is in the 30's-usually in the low 30's, depending on which polls you look at. (Even the right-wing Fox News puts it in the very low 40's).
True conservatives, believe it or not, don't generally support President Bush. This is because they are sick of his deviation from their beloved traditional conservative base. I actually love traditonal conservatives, but not the new breed of neo-cons who have embraced our president's enormous power increase during wartime, big-business subsidies, outrageous fiscal irresponsibility, and security-threatening apathy towards our failing border control.

Is this something that cons realize and yet continue to display their unwavering support of our president whose credibility is severely damaged?

That's right Quickie. I thank our much-former Congress for establishing Washington's precedence as Constitutional law on a daily basis.

Voodoo, those people just can't win. When they present the actual facts, conservatives don't listen.

Answer 1

You may not realize it, but all Bush bashers fall into two categories. The vast majority are liberals and the rest are stupid people who believe what they hear on the news. Of course this is Bush's fault for not getting himself out there to the American people. I fell into this category until recently when I heard a 45 minute interview with Bush about his beliefs and himself personally. I really think he's great now.

Answer 2

A very interesting thought. I don't actually know what most conservatives think on this issue, I'm not a conservative but let me take a shot at the underlying framework of your question. "Who Bashes Bush"?


First of course, there is the question of if you separate rational yet heated criticism from childish name-calling. The former would be legitimate, the latter bashing. If you do that, then you have to figure out where to draw the line. In my mind, calling him a war-criminal or calling for his impeachment is not bashing, it is just very heated criticism. I'm no liberal and I've never actually said either of those things but I can see how a rational person could, be they liberal or conservative. Calling for his execution or praying that he is assassinated, well, that strikes me as bashing.

For the record, I think conservatives as well as liberals can both bash Pres. Bush, as well as rationally assess him in a very negative way. As far as percentages, I'd have to say that of those that bash him, liberals are probably in the majority but conservatives would make up far more than 1%. After all, Bush is to the left of most Democrats in terms of immigration, if he could get his way he'd probably push for open boarders. Then there is his lukewarm record on abortion, his neo-con foreign policy, his big-government being the biggest since FDR, among other things.

Some of those issues, particularly immigration and abortion, have some very extreme people on the fringes. With all of that, you add up the bashers, you are almost assured a sizable minority of hard-core conservatives. You won't hear "The Chimp in Chief" or "Village Idiot", but you will hear terms like "Judas" and "The Best Liberal Democratic President Ever". In other words, the language is different but the bashing is the same.

Answer 3

I think too many people on here do generalize an awful lot. I agree with you that there must be a lot of conservatives who do NOT blindly support Bush. The statistics prove this. Either that - or the 70% of the people in this country who don't support Bush are liberal. I do really doubt that. I have several conservative relatives who are adamantly against Bush. We will never get anywhere toward reuniting this country until we stop making broad generalizations, stop name-calling, and quit making it a case of "us against them" when it comes to the liberal vs, conservative disagreements. The "us" we should all be working for is ALL people of the United States. I am a liberal - but am starting to get really weary of the division that seems to be rampant in our country lately.

Answer 4

you think of all liberals would be unable to articulate what they suspect in? Come take a walk interior the real worldwide sometime. you're quoting from a programme which a multi-millionaire interior the prevalent public eye refuses to specify his very own ideals. He refused because of the fact as a public determine he needs to stay as properly-called a hazard to as a lot of people as a hazard. he's, for this reason, no longer precisely representative of any political spectrum different than that of the wealthy, exposure conscious, Hollywood variety. nearly all of persons do no longer could desire to problem approximately public opinion dropping them artwork. He does. nearly all of liberals could cheerfully have dropped a nuclear bomb on Japan, because of the fact it saved tens of millions of the two people and eastern. The carnage of an invasion of Japan could have made Hiroshima and Nagasaki gentle into finished insignificance. Defeat terror? ok, he refused to assert how. honest adequate. I dare say you have have been given a greater advantageous thought related to killing all of them? properly, finished marks for attempt, yet you would be unable to kill all of them. it fairly is impossible. right here's a splash. Kill one terrorist, you get yet another 2 changing them. that's why Iraq is packed with them. Terrorism is fuelled by skill of a feeling of injustice, and troops raiding your place, killing your friends and kinfolk, or basically undeniable spoiling your day creates new terrorists. So, in short, the respond on your unique question isn't any, i do no longer locate it peculiar.

Answer 5

If we strip your question of all of the ad hominem and broad generalisations, we actually have an interesting hypothesis.

What exactly IS a true conservative?

A traditionalist? Seems plausible to me. Loose borders are not a traditional conservative standpoint, but it's one Bush has taken.

As it is fairly hard not to see that you are a member of the left (it's the choice of rhetoric that gives it away), I've got a question for you.

Do Bush's left leaning policies increase his appeal to you?

Oh, and fox isn't "rightwing":

http://www.newsroom.ucla.edu/page.asp?RelNum=6664

It just leans the least to the left.

Answer 6

I rarely see cons that are disillusioned with Bush and his big government spending start posting "Bush lied", "Bush is a chimp", etc.. Bush bashers are overwhelmingly liberal. Cons tend to be able to intelligently express their dislike for the president and support their position with facts. It's pretty easy to tell the difference most of the time.

Answer 7

You are mostly correct. I define "Bush-bashing" as being unnecessarily hateful and immature in your comments about Bush. Now, I dislike him as our president and I think he's incompetent, and I am a conservative, but 99% of the bashers ARE liberal.

Answer 8

Let's just put it this way, most of the people who are demanding Bush be impeached and jailed, who want us to get out of Iraq, are liberals. The most vocal Bush critics, and the funniest are liberals.

Answer 9

You live in the UNITED states of america right? Just checking.

Answer 10

Goody for you,however I left the dem party after Carter. The left wing spineless,kooks caused many dems to leave the party. I won't go back.