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babe had 8399 at bats-------------bonds has 9507

babe also had 94 wins as a pitcher

2007-03-02 05:49:37 · 26 answers · asked by doghouse 3 in Sports Baseball

26 answers

Anyone who has to ask this question hasn't done their homework. The record books speak for them. The Babe was a pitcher for 5-years. Put him in the field those 5-years and at a minimum of 15-homers we have a total of 789. And 15 is being short. Of course he wouldn't hold any pitching records by a left-hander, as he still does. And has anyone noticed that Babe is nowhere near the top 50 batters in striking out? His .342 is a great indication of how great a hitter he was. He would have went over 3,000 hits as a regular. Give him 50-RBI's for each of those five years and see where he would be on that list. And to think all the Babe did was stuff himself with hot dogs, soda pop and beer. That 42-ounce war club put a lot of balls over the walls. Nobody then or now swung a heavier bat. Ruth may not have the stolen bases Bonds has but he stole Home 10 times. Look it up!
Bonds? Get outta town!

2007-03-02 11:36:17 · answer #1 · answered by Jay9ball 6 · 0 1

Between Ruth and Bonds - here's another angle: Babe Ruth changed how the game was played. Before he started walloping home runs, it was almost all "small ball" - singles, bunts, stolen bases, hit and run, etc. Now, I really enjoy that style of play more than watching a homerun fest.

But despite my preferences, when you look at how the game changed, it was Babe Ruth who was central to changing the focus from small ball to power hitting. He paved the way for the power hitters who have come along and have broken his records.

Of course, as the face of steroid use, Barry Bonds has changed the way the players approach the game, but in a way that hardly anyone would agree was good for the baseball.

2007-03-02 14:05:41 · answer #2 · answered by Justus 2 · 0 1

You can make that Babe Ruth or anybody and the answer is still Babe Ruth. The best baseball player of all time, past, present or future. One year he hit more homers than any American League TEAM! Besides his 94 pitching wins, he lead the league in ERA and shutouts. The first time he led the league in homers, he also had 13 pitching wins. As a hitter, he wasn't just a slugger. His lifetime batting average was .344. You will never see accomplishments like that again.

2007-03-02 14:02:59 · answer #3 · answered by steveh74135 2 · 0 1

No question. For so many reasons. George Herman "Babe" Ruth. Not just the fact that the Babe was a pitcher turned OF. Or that the only artificial substance the Babe would have used was probably beer or whiskey. But for the fact that the Babe actually helped save baseball after the "Black Sox Scandal".

2007-03-02 13:55:19 · answer #4 · answered by Mike S 3 · 0 1

It is nearly impossible to compare Babe Ruth with stars from later eras for so many reasons. His stats are indeed mind-blowing, but deceptive. The Babe is baseball's greatest pop-culture icon, but far from being the greatest player ever.

First of all, Babe played in a league that was inferior to the league of the last 50 years. The pool from which MLB talent was drawn during his career was exponentially smaller than that of the modern league. Imagine removing all African American, Hispanic, and Asian Players from today's league. That's a rough approximation of what Ruth would have faced.

The caliber of pitching that Ruth faced was also much weaker. Ruth never saw a slider like Randy Johnson's. He never faced the equal of a Schilling, Martinez, Clemens, Maddux, Ryan, Seaver, Koufax, etc. He likely never saw a 100 mph pitch, a phenomena not uncommon today. In his monster 1927 season when he jacked 60, he never faced the league leaders in wins, strike outs, and ERA; they were in pinstipes.

Speaking of homeruns, Babe should probably have an asterisk by his stats. According to the Encyclopia of Baseball, it wasn't until 1931 that MLB designated a homer as any hit that travels over the fence in the air and in fair territory as a homer. Prior to then, any ball bouncing over or rolling through the fence was counted as a round-tripper. It is likely, then, that many of Ruth's "homers," including his 60 in '27, weren't actually homers by the modern definition, but what would be today ground rule doubles.

The Babe was ultimately a single-faceted player. He was a power hitter. Period. Yes, I know, he amassed some noteworthy stats as a pitcher, but if he was really a great pitcher why did he not continue to pitch?

Was he a great defensive player? Almost no mention is made of his defensive prowess in the annuls of history. How many stolen bases did he accumulate? 123 (his career high was 14 in 1920). Leo Durocher said that there were four things a ballplayer had to be able to do to be a superstar: run, field, hit, and hit for power. Ruth could do two of these.

As loathable as he is, Bonds' career has been at least impressive, at most one of the greatest of all time. Though the legitimacy of his stats is in question, he played with and against far more talented players than did the Babe. Depending on the source, as much as 70% of MLB players, including pitchers, used performance enhancing substances during the last 10 years. Why is Bonds the only man who put up the numbers he put up? Steriods may make you bigger and stronger, but they can't help you hit a baseball or win a batting title with a .370 average. He's got gold gloves. He's the only player in history with 500 HRs and 500 stolen bases. For that matter, he's the only player with 400 of each.

Babe Ruth was certainly a great player. He probably influenced the game more than any other player in history. But influece doesn't equate to all around skill. He was great, but not the greatest. That honor, in my opinion, goes to Bonds' godfather.

It would be interesting, though, if we could take the Bonds from 1995 and put him in the 1920s and bring the Babe of 1927 to today. I think any rational baseball fan, regardless of their opinions of personality, would be able to predict the outcome of these scenarios.

2007-03-02 18:02:20 · answer #5 · answered by Kirby 1 · 2 0

Babe Ruth all the way. He's all around a better ball player. Besides, Barry Bonds doesn't deserve to be as good as the Babe.

BABE!

2007-03-02 15:12:38 · answer #6 · answered by Zoney 4 · 1 1

thats kind of a stupid question(no offense). babe all the way barry bonds a a no good lying cheater.babe ruth got ad many home runs as he did with pure talent and in less at bats and on top of that he was a pitcher. barry bonds is just a fat gut that stands in the outfield.

2007-03-02 18:19:20 · answer #7 · answered by I <3 RUSSIANS MORE 2 · 0 1

Babe Ruth: Hot dogs, cigars, and chasing women were his forms of drugs.

Barry Bonds: Steroids

Babe Ruth was a fun loving care free guy, who enjoyed life. Had all of the vises that we deem as evil, and bad for the body, and still produced as a pitcher, and as a batter.

Barry Bonds is a grumpy anti-social person. He does not seem to love the game anymore, and is looking at it from the business perspective. He wants the record even if he has to limp to it.

Give me the guy who loves baseball and enjoys being out there everyday over the one who only does it for himself, his prestige, and his wallet.

2007-03-02 13:56:17 · answer #8 · answered by Kevin M 3 · 1 1

Babe Ruth hit with natural ability. Barry Bonds is obviously juiced up.

2007-03-02 15:07:28 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

Barry Bonds!!!!
Almost all of Ruth's homeruns were over short fences, a little over 300 feet. Ruth didn't have to face all these pitchers that are on steroids!!!

2007-03-02 21:23:43 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

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