OK 9/11 Conspiracy believers can you?

Question

Show me evidence of one, just one, STRUCTURAL Engineer who believes the collapse of the WTC was caused by a controlled demolition?

Just one.

Ok dstr let me take yours first.

David L. Griscom, PhD is a Physicist not a Structural Engineer and his position does not have anything to do with the tower being brought down by explosives. You show it in your cut and paste job. His entire line of reasoning is that the results from post 9/11 such as "the deplorable Patriot Act, the illegal Iraq war, NSA spying on ordinary Americans, repudiation of the Geneva Conventions, and the repeal of habeas corpus (a fundamental point of law that has been with us since the signing of the Magna Carta in 1215).

Surely these Orwellian consequences of public ignorance constitute more than sufficient motivation for any patriotic American physicist or engineer to join the search for 9/11 Truth!"

Nothing in his statement here or in the entire text at http://www.patriotsquestion911.com/ point to him claiming anything about controlled demolition.

Now Hugo Bachmann, PhD I would give more credit to because of his education, but his findings are the result of looking at the limited amount of video of the building. He never took part in any of the actual investigation. He also acknowledged that the collapse could be the result of structural damage and the resulting fire.

Jack Keller PhD - Environmental Engineer specializes in water projects. Disqualified.

Steven Jones PhD - Particle and Nuclear Physics. Not really a structural guy but I thought I would read what he had to say. The link that comes with his quotes does not go anywhere so sorry hes out.

Now Crypto Jew Girl I had to scroll though 35+ names of full members of the group you linked to to find one Structural Dynamacist. Upon reading here biog I find that she specializes in biomaterials and composite materials. Not Structural Steel. I did run across many Professors of English, one of Marketing, an Associate Professor of Geology and a ton of other non qualified folks. I didn't even look at the associate members because I got too tired of seeing no one who fits what I asked for.

Kelly B - Thomas Eager actually is one of the many who claim the collapse was a result of the impact and resulting fires.

"For example, Thomas Eagar, saying that steel loses 80 percent of its strength when it is heated to 1,300˚F, argues that this is what happened."

From your link

Kelley B the report you linked to is by David Ray Griffin, a retired Professor of Philosophy and Religion. Please.

Answer 1

They will not be able to, because there is none out there. If this was really a conspiracy and they were able to orchestrate something of this caliber. Don't you think they would be able to remove this information from the internet? Or take out the people that came forward with this information? If this was true and they could kill all those people, what would stop them from killing a few more. Come on people, check back into reality.

Answer 2

totally unrelated to this question. You made my point for me when you said the populace is just as responsible for the channeling of wealth, I think more than the elite. And I guess I was implying the byproduct of nuclear power which cannot be disposed of in any permanent (for future generations that the easily insulted elders have a problem envisioning) way on this planet, not so much the use of but the leftover material that must be kept in water for decades in order to control meltdown. Looking back through history at the rise and fall of civilizations (dark ages) it is hard for me to believe that those circumstances were planned for, because it is my understanding that these materials must be "babysat" and in the event of a modern "dark age" the babysitter simply wont be there.

P.S. look up the conditions of the PERRY nuclear power plant

I am writing back because I see a level of intelligence worth responding to. Only to clarify my point better not to start any revolving arguments. Thank you for your time.

Answer 3

You don`t have to, the WTC was under construction at the time by a company from the Washington area with no skyscraper experience(first time) and was also the company that was doing renovations to the area of the Pentagon that got hit. I know it is just a coincidence but enough for a cop`s mind to investigate.

Answer 4

Thomas Eagar--MIT Professor of Materials Engineering

http://911review.com/articles/griffin/nyc1.html

I am curious why you don't read the entire article and only pick out the phrases that you feel support your position!
The author uses these facts to DISPROVE what Eagar and others TRY to use as reasonings!

Why even bother asking a question if you are closed off to look at the evidence presented to you objectively and open-mindedly?

Do you have any idea how wrong I wish I was?
Do you have any idea how much I am corncerned with the country I was born in and love is being run by corrupt evil people who's only concern is their own supremecy and financial status??
The only thing that gives me hope is people who are willing to stand up against these evil-doers and nature has a way of balancing out and overcoming evil!!

It always has---and will again!! Of this I am sure!!

Answer 5

Come on Nancy. Come on Crypto Whatever. Show some evidence. ANYTHING.

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Please?

Answer 6

I would say you got your answer.

Answer 7

David L. Griscom, PhD – Research physicist, retired in 2001 from Naval Research Laboratory (NRL) in Washington, DC, after 33 years service. Fellow of the American Physical Society. Fulbright-García Robles Fellow at Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México in Mexico City (1997). Visiting professorships of research at the Universities of Paris and Saint-Etienne, France, and Tokyo Institute of Technology (2000 - 2003). Adjunct Professor of Materials Science and Engineering, University of Arizona (2004 - 2005). Winner of the 1993 N.F. Mott Award sponsored by the Journal of Non-Crystalline Solids, the 1995 Otto Schott Award offered by the Carl-Zeiss-Stiftung (Germany), a 1996 Outstanding Graduate School Alumnus Award at Brown University, and the 1997 Sigma Xi Pure Science Award at NRL. Principal author of 109 of his 185 published works, a body of work which is highly cited by his peers. Officially credited with largest number of papers (5) by any author on list of 100 most cited articles authored at NRL between 1973 and 1988.
Personal blog 1/5/07: "David Ray Griffin has web-published a splendid, highly footnoted account of The Destruction of the World Trade Center: Why the Official Account Cannot Be True: This scholarly work, rich in eyewitness accounts, includes 11 separate pieces of evidence that the World Trade Center towers 1, 2, and 7 were brought down by explosives.

... I implore my fellow physicists and engineers who may have the time, expertise, and (ideally) supercomputer access to get to work on the physics of the World Trade Center collapses and publish their findings in refereed journals like, say, the Journal of Applied Physics.

The issue of knowing who was really behind the 9/11 attacks is of paramount importance to the future of our country, because the “official” assumption that it was the work of 19 Arab amateurs (1) does not match the available facts and (2) has led directly to the deplorable Patriot Act, the illegal Iraq war, NSA spying on ordinary Americans, repudiation of the Geneva Conventions, and the repeal of habeas corpus (a fundamental point of law that has been with us since the signing of the Magna Carta in 1215).

Surely these Orwellian consequences of public ignorance constitute more than sufficient motivation for any patriotic American physicist or engineer to join the search for 9/11 Truth!" http://impactglassman


Member: Scholars for 9/11 Truth Association Statement: "Research proves the current administration has been dishonest about what happened in New York and Washington, D.C. The World Trade Center was almost certainly brought down by controlled demolitions and that the available relevant evidence casts grave doubt on the government's official story about the attack on the Pentagon."


Bio: http://impactglassman.blogspot.com/

Hugo Bachmann, PhD – Professor Emeritus and former Chairman of the Department of Structural Dynamics and Earthquake Engineering, Swiss Federal Institute of Technology. Author and co-author of Erdbebenbemessung von Stahlbetonhochbauten (Seismic Analysis of Concrete Reinforced Structures) (1990), Vibration Problems in Structures: Practical Guidelines (1995), Biege- und Schubversuche an teilweise vorgespannten Leichtbetonbalken (Structural Analysis of Linked Concrete Beams) (1998), Hochbau für Ingenieure. Eine Einführung (Structural Construction for Engineers. An introduction) (2001), Erdbebensicherung von Bauwerken (Earthquake-proofing Buildings) (2002).

Tages Anzeiger Article 9/9/06: "In my opinion the building WTC 7 [570 feet tall, 47 stories, and not hit by an airplane] was, with great probability, professionally demolished," says Hugo Bachmann, Emeritus ETH [Swiss Federal Institute of Technology] - Professor of Structural Analysis and Construction. And also Jörg Schneider, likewise emeritus ETH - Professor of Structural Analysis and Construction, interprets the few available video recordings as evidence that "the building WTC 7 was with great probability demolished."
English translation: http://www.danieleganser.ch
Original in German: http://www.danieleganser.ch


Book 9/11 Synthetic Terror: Made in USA: "As Bachmann told the Neue Züricher Zeitung Online on September 13, 2001, at first glance there seemed to be two possibilities in the fall of the towers. The first was the fire and its effect on the steel supports. But Bachmann had an alternative: "In the second scenario, an additional terrorist action would have caused the collapse of the buildings. In this way, according to Bachmann, buildings like the World Trade center can be destroyed without great logistical exertion." The article went on to say that "Bachmann could imagine that the perpetrators had installed explosives on key supports in a lower floor before the attack." If the perpetrators had rented office space, then these "explosive tenants" could have calmly placed explosive charges on the vulnerable parts of the building "without having anyone notice." http://www.reopen911.org/Tarpley_ch_6.pdf


Bio: http://www.ibk.ethz.ch/emeritus/Bachmann

Jack Keller, PhD, PE – Professor Emeritus, Civil and Environmental Engineering, Utah State University. Member, National Academy of Engineering. International advisor on water resources, development and agricultural water use. Serves as an advisor to the CALFED Water Use Efficiency Program and former member CALFED Independent Science Board. Awarded State of Utah Governor's Medal for Science and Technology (1988). Selected by Scientific American magazine as one of the world's 50 leading contributors to science and technology benefiting society (2004).

Member: Scholars for 9/11 Truth Association Statement: "Research proves the current administration has been dishonest about what happened in New York and Washington, D.C. The World Trade Center was almost certainly brought down by controlled demolitions and that the available relevant evidence casts grave doubt on the government's official story about the attack on the Pentagon."

Steven Jones, PhD – Former Professor of Physics at Brigham Young University. Retired in October 2006 to devote more time to 9/11 research. Principal Investigator for experimental Muon-catalyzed fusion from 1982 to 1991 for the U.S. Department of Energy, Division of Advanced Energy Projects. From 1990 to 1993, Jones researched fusion in condensed matter physics and deuterium, for the U.S. Department of Energy and for the Electric Power Research Institute. Author of over 40 papers published in peer-reviewed scientific journals.

Journal of 9/11 Studies Peer reviewed paper, Why Indeed Did the WTC Buildings Completely Collapse? 9/06: "On the basis of photographic and video evidence as well as related data and analyses, I provide thirteen reasons for rejecting the official hypothesis, according to which fire and impact damage caused the collapse of the Twin Towers [each 1300+ feet tall, 110 stories] and WTC 7 [570 feet tall, 47 stories, and not hit by an airplane], in favor of the controlled-demolition hypothesis. The goal of this paper is to promote further scrutiny of the official government-sponsored reports as well as serious investigation of the controlled demolition hypothesis." http://worldtradecentertruth.com/volume


Bio: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_E._Jones


Judy Wood, PhD – Assistant Professor, Mechanical Engineering, Clemson University. Member of the Society for Experimental Mechanics (SEM). Co-founder SEM’s Biological Systems and Materials Division. Currently serves on the SEM Composite Materials Technical Division.

Essay: "So, for the building to be collapsed in about 10 seconds, the lower floors would have to start moving before the upper floors could reach them by gravity alone.

Did we see this? I believe it's pretty clear in some of the videos. The "wave" of collapse, progressing down the building, is moving faster than free-fall speed. This would require something like a detonation sequence. ...

In conclusion, the explanations of the collapse that have been given by the 9/11 Commission Report and NIST are not physically possible. A new investigation is needed to determine the true cause of what happened to these buildings on September 11, 2001. The destruction of all seven WTC buildings and especially WTC1 and WTC2 may be considered the greatest engineering disaster in the history of the world and deserves a thorough investigation." http://janedoe0911.tripod.com


Bio: http://janedoe0911.tripod.com/Wood_Bio.html