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Excuse me if I'm wrong, but I didn't think we were basing our laws on religious perspectives. Anyone that replies to same sex marriage questions with any mention of God or the Bible is an unamerican facist.

2007-03-01 12:52:02 · 16 answers · asked by Ecofreako 3 in Society & Culture Cultures & Groups Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender

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I just wanted to say how incredibly amused I am by the reasons people are coming up with. Ha. Clogging the courts with divorce cases? I think that is already being done, actually I know that is already being done. What are some other gems? How about the whole who pays child support idea. Since child support isn't based on the sex of the parents, I'd say that would be pretty easy to figure out. The child lives with person A, so person B pays or vice versa. I'd have to say my absolute favorite is sex is for pleasure and procreation, so if we're not using it for procreation it's narcissistic. Ha ha. So is staring in the mirror all the time or talking nonstop about yourself, or bragging, etc. Should these things be outlawed as well? These reasons are ridiculous. People seem unwilling or unable to admit that this is a religious law being built into our society with a supposed separation of church and state. If the bible is so important to follow why don't we cut out the deceit and lies (unless of course the bible is in favor of these things) and call a spade a spade. IT'S BASED ON RELIGION!! And further more since when did it become ok to make something between two consenting adults illegal because it wasn't favored by all people? Then tattoos should be illegal, piercings, many video games, books, magazines, websites, poems, songs, the list would go on and on forever. You know what else is narcissistic? Thinking that only the things you (I don't mean "you" as in the asker of this question) approve of are ok for society. People are *******. Good question by the way.

Good Point Phxguy

2007-03-01 19:40:55 · answer #1 · answered by T 4 · 0 1

As per the law of nature, male meets female , mates & has off-spring and the next generation is born & hence the cycle of life carries on & on until extinction (due to external factors).

Same sex relationships do not produce babies. Hence traditionally its a bad idea to have too many same-sex marriages.

However science has progressed a lot in the recent years and with artifical fertilisation , test-tube babies and cloning (just to name a few) it is not absolutely necessary to have opposite-sex relations to give birth to the next generation.

Religon has never encouraged homosexuality and will never do so - religon is against pre-marital sex , extra-marital sex & same gender sex. Religon also says that earth is the center of the universe and man was created on the 6th day.

2007-03-01 19:01:49 · answer #2 · answered by Tim 3 · 0 0

Only one person came up with some half-decent answers,and yet I still beg to differ:

1. Financial reasons. Can we afford higher taxes to clog up our courts with gay divorces, too?TAXES ARE ALREADY HIGH DUE TO STRAIGHT DIVORCES,THEREFORE STRAIGHT PEOPLE SHOULD THINK BEFORE THEY JUMP THE BROOM WITH SOMEONE THEY BARELY KNOW.REMEMBER, GAYS CAN'T MARRY,SO DIVORCE WAS INVENTED DUE TO STRAIGHTS.
2. Social reasons: Who pays child support for gay divorcees? The "man" or the "wife" THIS IS NOTHING BUT A MOCKERY OF GAY RELATIONSHIPS. IT'S COMMON SENSE THAT WHOEVER MAKES THE MOST SHOULD PAY ALIMONY.
3. Ethical reasons: Since sex clearly has 2 purposes, pleasure and procreation, should we just emphasize the narcissistic pleasure and completely forget humanities need for reproduction our kind? AS LONG AS HUMANS WALK THIS EARTH THERE WILL BE REPRODUCTION. THE NUMBER OF HETEROS OUTNUMBER HOMOS 9-1,SO THERE ARE PLENTY OF STRAIGHTS TO PROCREATE.BESIDES,GAYS ALSO HAVE CHILDREN AS WELL.
4. Emotional reasons: Should we upset the majority in order to satisfy the lusts of the minority?WHO CARES WHAT UPSETS THE MAJORITY AS LONG AS THE MINORITY STILL FOLLOWS THE LAWS AND PAYS THEIR TAXES. IF THE MAJORITY DOESN'T LIKE IT THEY CAN MOVE TO ANOTHER COUNTRY BECAUSE THE LAST TIME I CHECKED WE WERE ALL U.S. CITIZENS.

AND I CAN'T FORGET THE EVER POPULAR,GAY PARENTS WILL MESS UP AND CONFUSE CHILDREN. PLENTY OF GAY PARENTS HAVE RAISED DECENT WELL ROUNDED CHILDREN,JUST AS PLENTY OF STRAIGHT PARENTS HAVE RAISED SCREWED UP KIDS. AND NO ONE EVER TALKS ABOUT HOW STRAIGHT PARENTS CAN SCREW UP THEIR GAY KIDS.
.......AND LET'S NOT FORGET THE OLD DUMB SAYING" IF WE LET GAYS GET MARRIED,PEOPLE WILL WANT TO MARRY ANIMALS,CHILDREN,AND DEAD PEOPLE." GAY OR STRAIGHT, ANYONE THAT WANTS TO MARRY A CHILD,A ANIMAL, OR A DECEASED PERSON IS ILL AND JUST PLAIN WRONG. A HEALTHLY RELATIONSHIP IS BETWEEN TWO LIVING BREATHING CONSENTING ADULTS.

PEOPLE REALLY NEED TO GET OVER THEMSELVES BECAUSE GAYS AREN'T GOING ANYWHERE ANYTIME SOON!

2007-03-01 18:28:19 · answer #3 · answered by indrep33 3 · 0 0

Perhaps you cannot separate religion from this argument...

One of the fundamental functions of nature, to include human civilization, is survival. For most creatures, it takes a species from the opposite sex to make this possible. With all things being in its natural state, a man and man or woman and woman cannot produce a human offspring. That's nature, and that is reality.

Lets make the assumption that you believe in God... then as someone that believes in God, you would also believe he created nature as well. And therefore one could make the conclusion that God did not intend for same sexes to intimately commune. If he did... then a man and a man could produce an offspring. Remember...nature's innate function is to survive. So it would 'make sense' for a religion (and it's not only Christianity) to not sanction something that is contradictory to nature. It should be expected that religions would emulate the elements of nature. That is understandable.

If you not believe in God you would still have to acknowledge that nature intended for a man and woman to come together to produce an offspring. Then the questions still arises...why should we promote or foster a behavior that is contradictory to nature?....that is contradictory to the function for survival?

Your assessment that those who bring religion into this argument are 'unamerican facist' is premature. Many of those who are against same sex marriages do so out of respect for their deity,...a Being they believe that is much greater than all of us. Many of these Believers are charitable, they are doctors, firemen, soldiers, life guards, policemen, and good natured people. Some of those same people might even be your friends or family members. Do you really want to feel that way? Search your heart...

2007-03-01 14:07:49 · answer #4 · answered by thoughtsandtheliberation 1 · 0 3

I have one reason for opposing it -- and only one: to preserve the meaning of the word in the language. If one speaks of a marriage, one expects the speaker to be referring to a heterosexual relationship. As for civil unions, which give the declarants the same rights and responsibilities as married people, that's just fine.

2007-03-01 15:20:05 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

I believe there is no nonreligious arguments.

When you get into the non religious arguments you still run into bigotry.

100%.

One person said stds. I think a person would aquire more stds if they wernt married, one person said children, its been shown that children of gay parents are no more likely to be gay. I had straight parents and yes theyve been together for 40 years and yes im gay.

One person said tax money for divorces, but we all pay taxes and we all deserve our fare share from our government.

2007-03-01 13:13:11 · answer #6 · answered by cutelagayguy 4 · 0 1

Ask the founding fathers what "Unamerican" would be. I think they may disagree with you. I talked to a bi friend, and she said that if she got married, it would have to be an open relationship. This is an extension of high school drama and a destroyer of people and relationships. And it spreads STD's.

2007-03-01 13:01:32 · answer #7 · answered by taf_48fan 2 · 3 1

people seem to be quoting "it's not normal" and "it's not natural" but these so-called normal states are based on societal norms.. not based on what appears reasonable and normal for each individual. they base normal on what "most" people do..

bottom line, there is absolutely no reason to disciminate against human beings due to sexual orientation.. marriage is about love, not just about genitals.. (unless you are some sort of casual sex-craving person)

those people that want to discuss the "traditional family of man and woman" well, what about single parents? 60 % of kids these days are not raised in a home with mommy and daddy. so i suppose single people shouldn't be allowed to raise kids huh??? whether you have one mommy or two mommies, or one monny and one daddy? well, as long as they are good parents, their sexual orientation wil have no negative affects on the kids.. kids are both with their sexual orientations.. gay parents can't change it.

heck, do you think my parents like the fact that i am a bisexual transsexual? heck, no.. did they do anything in particular to cause me to be born a bisexual transsexual? no..

2007-03-01 13:49:32 · answer #8 · answered by Jeff 4 · 1 1

Of course there are many reasons against same sex marriage other than religious ones, tho the religious reasons are good too. Here are a few:
1. Financial reasons. Can we afford higher taxes to clog up our courts with gay divorces, too?
2. Social reasons: Who pays child support for gay divorcees? The "man" or the "wife"
3. Ethical reasons: Since sex clearly has 2 purposes, pleasure and procreation, should we just emphasize the narcissistic pleasure and completely forget humanities need for reproduction our kind?
4. Emotional reasons: Should we upset the majority in order to satisfy the lusts of the minority?
The lists go on. There are very practical reasons the Bible condemns homosexuality, and the loneliness and desperation exhibited here are some very good ones.

2007-03-01 13:05:21 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0 6

What would be next? Animal/human marriages? Just to get health benefits, death benefits, public assistance, tax breaks, insurance, etc. I think all married people should be joined surgically like siamese twins. Till death....

2007-03-01 13:09:28 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 2 0

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