The problem is that some idiot posts something on the internet, and it sounds, to the uneducated ear, like it could be completely reasonable, so some uneducated person assumes it's true, and it grows from there.
I've not heard one person with ANY qualifications say that the buildings couldn't have collapsed the way they did because of those planes. People don't realize that, to refute the claim, you'd have to have knowledge that the structure of the buildings was such that, with a breach of strutctural integrity, they'd still stay standing. Put that way, this sounds ludicrous. These buildings were not built to withstand a plane being flown into them. No one imagined that would ever happen.
2007-03-01 06:57:49
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answer #1
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answered by Bush Invented the Google 6
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Most of the general population have no idea of how hot jet fuel is & how it could cause such collapse of the Twin Towers.
Also, most of us have no idea of Structural Engineering. Many do not realialize that these buildings were the first of their kind built. Most of the weight of the buildings were on the frame of the buildings & when the jet fuel melted the outer structure there was nothing to keep the building from caveing, floor by floor until the weight was too much for the outer structure & it gave way
There was a report claiming that the engeneering was the problem. However, if the jet fuel had not been a factor, the buildings would have remained standing.
2007-03-01 15:06:14
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answer #2
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answered by geegee 6
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There are a few. They use pseudo-science and only disclose certain facts to help further their point. For example, they say jet fuel doesn't burn hot enough to melt steel. But they don't tell you it does burn hot enough to weaken steel. Basically, about .015% of the engineers might try to use some bad science to credit conspiracy theorists, just like there are some scientists who argue that evolution is false.
2007-03-01 15:05:44
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answer #3
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answered by Take it from Toby 7
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You are right, the plaines COULD cause the colapse but did they? I don't think so.I still research this subject and have no doubts that it was controlled demolition if I can use this phrase here (too many lifes were lost) but if it was a terrorist attac whay was it done at morning hours? If it happened at least 2-3 hours later can you imagine how big would be the number of casualties? If you answer yourself to this question you will have answer to all other Qs. I have very interesting video about bussiness behind 9/11. would you like to have email contact with me? Out there is a lot very reliable answers but they do not support terrorism theory. GabiPi.
2007-03-01 15:41:14
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answer #4
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answered by Gabriela P 1
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S.P.I.N.E. : The Scientific Panel Investigating Nine-Eleven
Members of the Scientific Panel Investigating Nine-eleven come from a variety of professional backgrounds. Some investigate aspects of the 9/11 attacks, others search the web for useful information, and some write up new material. We have tried to maintain professional standards in both the analysis and presentation of the evidence we have assembled, as well as in the scenarios we have constructed.
The investigative work of the Panel proceeds in the directions that head our list of articles: What Did Not Happen and What May Have Happened. By clicking on the titles of these sections, you may read a brief illustration of the differences required in the two approaches.
The background information section provides important documents and articles related to the attacks on September 11, 2001.
General Statement by the Panel:
"We have found solid scientific grounds on which to question the interpretation put upon the events of September 11, 2001 by the Office of the President of the United States of America and subsequently propagated by the major media of western nations. Our analysis of the detailed evidence implies a staged attack employing a variety of deceptive arrangements. Indeed, every element of the September 11 attacks, including cellphone calls from fast-moving aircraft, has an alternate means of creation."
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Lone Rock WI, USA PhD U of Wisconsin
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2007-03-01 23:48:45
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answer #5
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answered by dstr 6
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To answer question NO
Only 1 guy from BYU in the physics department is trying to back up the consparcy theories but the eng. dept there didn't even sign off on his ideas.
Btw: You are in good company of engineers.
Engineers Explain WTC Collapse
http://www.architectureweek.com/2002/0529/news_3-1.html
Report Ties WTC Collapses to Column Failures
http://enr.construction.com/news/buildings/archives/040119.asp
IT WAS THE FIRE, CAUSED THE TWIN TOWER COLLAPSE - icivilengineer.com
http://www.icivilengineer.com/News/WTC/Fire.html
Simulation for the collapse of WTC after aeroplane impact - Lu XZ., Yang N., Jiang JJ. Structure Engineer, 66(sup.). 2003, 18-22
Bazant, Z.P., & Zhou, Y.
"Addendum to 'Why Did the World Trade Center Collapse? - Simple Analysis" (pdf)
Journal of Engineering Mechanics v. 128, no. 3, (2002): 369-370.
Brannigan, F.L.
"WTC: Lightweight Steel and High-Rise Buildings"
Fire Engineering v.155, no. 4, (2002): 145-150.
Clifton, Charles G.
Elaboration on Aspects of the Postulated Collapse of the World Trade Centre Twin Towers
HERA: Innovation in Metals. 2001. 13 December 2001.
"Construction and Collapse Factors"
Fire Engineering v.155, no. 10, (2002): 106-108.
Corbett, G.P.
"Learning and Applying the Lessons of the WTC Disaster"
Fire Engineering v.155, no. 10, (2002.): 133-135.
"Dissecting the Collapses"
Civil Engineering ASCE v. 72, no. 5, (2002): 36-46.
Eagar, T.W., & Musso, C.
"Why Did the World Trade Center Collapse? Science, Engineering, and Speculation"
JOM v. 53, no. 12, (2001): 8-12.
Federal Emergency Management Agency, Therese McAllister, report editor.
World Trade Center Building Performance Study: Data Collection, Preliminary Observations, and Recommendations
(also available on-line)
Gabrielson, T.B., Poese, M.E., & Atchley, A.A.
"Acoustic and Vibration Background Noise in the Collapsed Structure of the World Trade Center"
The Journal of Acoustical Society of America v. 113, no. 1, (2003): 45-48.
Glover, N.J.
"Collapse Lessons"
Fire Engineering v. 155, no. 10, (2002): 97-103
Marechaux, T.G.
"TMS Hot Topic Symposium Examines WTC Collapse and Building Engineering"
JOM, v. 54, no. 4, (2002): 13-17.
Monahan, B.
"World Trade Center Collapse-Civil Engineering Considerations"
Practice Periodical on Structural Design and Construction v. 7, no. 3, (2002): 134-135.
Newland, D.E., & Cebon, D.
"Could the World Trade Center Have Been Modified to Prevent Its Collapse?"
Journal of Engineering Mechanics v. 128, no. 7, (2002):795-800.
National Instititue of Stamdards and Technology: Congressional and Legislative Affairs
“Learning from 9/11: Understanding the Collapse of the World Trade Center”
Statement of Dr. Arden L. Bement, Jr., before Committee of Science House of Representatives, United States Congress on March 6, 2002.
Pinsker, Lisa, M.
"Applying Geology at the World Trade Center Site"
Geotimes v. 46, no. 11, (2001).
The print copy has 3-D images.
Public Broadcasting Station (PBS)
Why the Towers Fell: A Companion Website to the Television Documentary.
NOVA (Science Programming On Air and Online)
Post, N.M.
"No Code Changes Recommended in World Trade Center Report"
ENR v. 248, no. 14, (2002): 14.
Post, N.M.
"Study Absolves Twin Tower Trusses, Fireproofing"
ENR v. 249, no. 19, (2002): 12-14.
The University of Sydney, Department of Civil Engineering
World Trade Center - Some Engineering Aspects
A resource site.
"WTC Engineers Credit Design in Saving Thousands of Lives"
ENR v. 247, no. 16, (2001): 12.
The Towers Lost and Beyond
http://web.mit.edu/civenv/wtc/
Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Eduardo Kausel, John E. Fernandez, Tomasz Wierzbicki, Liang Xue, Meg Hendry-Brogan, Ahmed F. Ghoniem, Oral Buyukozturk, Franz-Josef Ulm, Yossi Sheffi
Or for the WTC#7.
Pull it mean to pull the firefighters out it was a loser and why it feel go here and read.
http://wtc.nist.gov/progress_report_june04/appendixl.pdf
If you don't trust NIST you can't can trust anything you measure in this country.
Additional information. Morgan Reynolds is not an engineer.
Morgan Reynolds, Ph.D. [send him mail], is professor emeritus at Texas A&M University and former director of the Criminal Justice Center at the National Center for Policy Analysis headquartered in Dallas, TX. He served as chief economist for the US Department of Labor during 2001–2, George W. Bush's first term.
"Only professional demolition appears to account for the full range of facts associated with the collapses of WTC 1 (North Tower), WTC 2 (South Tower), and the much-overlooked collapse of the 47-story WTC building 7 at 5:21 pm on that fateful day."
From explosive experts themselves
http://www.jod911.com/WTC%20COLLAPSE%20STUDY%20BBlanchard%208-8-06.pdf
2007-03-01 15:12:39
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answer #6
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answered by Anonymous
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non-conventional skyscraper wtc #1 & #2 , yes i believe jets fire could have brought them down . building #7 no . that was the 48 story one Silverstein " had to pull ". hey engineer , explain how he got a demolition team into lower manhattan that day , set the charges , in a burning building , without the usual weeks of planning and prep . the CIA , FBI , and NYC emergecy operations center were in #7 . wouldn't they be screaming to save the building and all their vital records and evidence ? how come you never hear about the investgation into that $100 million fraud done on computers in building #7 that morning by someone who had a good idea the computer records would be destroyed ?
2007-03-01 15:13:37
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answered by Anonymous
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Whatever you do, don't listen to Nancy/Jazmine/Ferbie/CryptoJewgil/mikeygonebad. They are all the same person. Pretty sad how terrorists can manipulate feeble little brains huh?
By the way, no one can show you any proof showing that 9/11 was an inside job. Everyone with half a brain knows that terrorists flew planes into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.
ETA: Nancy changed her name to Susan. She also changed her race and hair color. She is now African-American with clown hair.
2007-03-01 14:54:47
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answered by TRUE PATRIOT 6
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I haven't heard anyone besides the lay people who pretend to have secret ninja knowledge say this. The real engineers talk about how the jetfuel did do this. The History Channel had an excellent show about it.
There are so many conspiracy theorists, it turns my stomach.
2007-03-01 15:00:55
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answered by Anonymous
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Did you know 9/11 Was Carried out by BUSH, CHENEY, The Neo-Cons with Help from the American Military??
Look over 75 Scientists say 911 was an inside job:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/ar...
2007-03-01 16:07:01
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answer #10
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answered by Anonymous
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