Conservative Christians: Are you able to separate politics from faith .....?

Question

It seems you can't because you have the whole jesus/god thing too tightly wrapped up with your version of patriotism. You think this is a christian country, yet you can't face the fact that the founders clearly separated the government from the church, and the church from the government. When questioned about your faith, you confuse it as an attack on the country and vice versa. Can you think of the two separately? Or are you going to continue trashing the constitution in an effort to resolve your confusion?

Answer 1

It is hard to imagine this cooperation going much further without a major fallout from concerned traditionalists, those that believe in basic conservative principles. The goal of the religious conservative ­- to execute God's will by any means - is in the long run, incompatible with Federalist ideology because it will continue to violate the Democratic principals that traditional conservatives and countless Americans value most.

Answer 2

A Christophobe?

What are you afraid of? Yes, most Christians can so and have done so.

You confuse legal issues with moral issues. You want to **** and suck anyone, animal, object, etc. We don't care!

The laws of this country are written off the 10 Commandments with such laws that are against Murder, Stealing, Lying, Adultry (not a federal law but is a Military law and applies in some states) and some that should be practiced more like not taking using your piehole as a cesspool, not disrespecting you parents, not working on Sunday, and not idolizing things like cars, stereos, tattoos, each other, etc.

No one wants to you to drink any kook-aid, by God's will, I believe it is a free will choice, you have a choice to make free will choices and it is YOURS! Hope you make the right ones.

The better questions is: Why do you hate Christians so much AND have you EVER read the Bible?

God Bless You.

Answer 3

""You think this is a christian country, yet you can't face the fact that the founders clearly separated the government from the church, and the church from the government.""

you mean like this....

"Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports . . . And let us indulge with caution the supposition that morality can be maintained without religion . . . Reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail to the exclusion of religious principle." From President George Washington's Farewell Address

"The Christian religion is, above all the Religions that ever prevailed or existed in ancient or modern times, the religion of Wisdom, Virtue, Equity, and Humanity. Let the Blackguard Paine say what he will; it is Resignation to God, it is Goodness itself to man." John Adams retorting to Thomas Paine in his diary, July 26, 1796.

The general principles, on which the Fathers achieved independence, were . . . the general principles of Christianity." John Adams, in a letter to Thomas Jefferson, June 28, 1813, The Adams-Jefferson Letters,ed. Lester J. Cappon (Chapel Hill, NC: University of North Carolina Press, 1959), vol 2, pp. 339-40.

"Before any man can be considered as a member of civil society, he must be considered as a subject of the Governor of the Universe. And to the same Divine Author of every good and perfect gift [James 1:17] we are indebted for all those privileges and advantages, religious as well as civil, which are so richly enjoyed in this favored land." James Madison

"The general principles on which the fathers achieved independence were.... the general principles of Christianity." President John Quincy Adams

There many many many more examples like this.

Answer 4

Your question is full of stereotypes, but please let me tell you a few things:

. Benjamin Franklin believed that "God governs in the affairs of men."
. Each session of the 1787 Constitutional Convention began with a prayer.
. The Washington Monument has a Bible in one of its 14th floor corners, a capstone that reads "PRAISE GOD" and prayers all the way up its inside from Christians.
. Jefferson said "I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man."
. Lincoln's second inaugural was filled with Biblical references. So were some of his other speeches, where do you think he got the "a house divided against itself cannot stand" bit from?

Remember now?

The same speech in which he stated "This country cannot endure half slave and half free"?

Scripture - which he was a devout student of.

. The Declaration of Independence refers to a "God" and a "Creator." MULTIPLE TIMES.
. The phrase "separation of church and state" exists nowhere in the Constitution. Libs have the Supreme Court to thank for it.
. FDR led American servicemen in prayer before D-Day.
. Ronald Reagan stated "If we ever forget that we are one nation under God, we will be a nation gone under."
. Washington kissed a Bible upon taking office.
. Jackson read the Bible heavily.
. Jefferson studied the Gospels in order to understand the moral teachings of Jesus.

Sir, I think it is YOU who are trashing the Constitution and wrapping America up in your own version of events.

Do some research and THEN talk! Until that time comes...

Shh.

Answer 5

Yes, actually, I can and DO separate politics from my faith.
I think that pretty much invalidates the rest of your question. I don't see the US as a Christian nation, and I DON'T see attacks on my faith as attacks on the country.

Oh, and separation of church and state is not constitutional. Freedom of religion is. The state not being able to establish a religion for everyone to follow is.

I'm not forcing my religion on anyone, thank you very much. Please stop stereotyping.

Answer 6

I am a conservative atheist but I believe in freedom of religious expression and Christianity is under attack by people like you sir and I will fight to my death to defend the right of freedom of religion. I will also fight to expose the truth that the constitution does not require separation of church and state. E-mail me if you know where separation of church and state is mentioned or implied in the constitution but I know that you won't because it's nonexistent.

Answer 7

The only 'separation' our founding fathers made was to not allow congress to establish a national religion. If you're going to post questions regarding the Constitution, it might help if you actually read it, or have an adult read it to you.

Answer 8

That was the case until the Libs tied school god and removal of his name from everything.

The liberals brought religion into politics three fold starting in the 60's and it has gotten to the point that to protect their faith it has to be brought in. Defense is what they are on and they need to attack and it seems to be working we are talking about it.

Answer 9

What is it that you are seriously trying to ask here. No point was really made at all. I can't remember ever confusing the two ever. You are clearly stereotyping here!!! Sorry try again!!!

Answer 10

We vote for what we believe in. Should we vote for what we don't believe in? All laws are the result of the collective beliefs of the voters.