you could abort every black baby in this country and your crime rate would go down.?

Question

Is this a racist statement.. Wait a minute how can that be racist if there isn't something negative and wrong about abortion in the first place? Hmm..

I am black and am making a case against abortion not for racism.. Now answer the question what is wrong with aborting ALL black children, that isn't wrong with aborting ONE child of any color? hmm?

you said it hailfeal two NEGATIVES...

exactly mamadukes black babies are NOT dispensible... or any babies for that matter..

the horde of Pro-choicers who frequent this board are vry quiet out there..

let me clarify what is racist about selectively aborting black children if abortion is not a bad thing?

please don't resort to name calling it only shows your reason is weak.

clearly it is a racist statement and clearly abortion is despicable..

Wrong again Jenny, If you aborted more babies of any color the crime rate WOULD go down, simply because there are less young people.. would you prefer I'd said that, if not, is it because you are in favor of high crime, or that you acknowledge aborion is wrong..

What is racist about selectively aborting black children(for whatever reason you wish) if abortion is not Wrong?

did I say Kids Jenny?(strawman anyone) Younger people are more likely to commit crimes than senior citizens Jenny! these young people have to be born first... Now answer my question, O but you can't!

to discriminate is a neutral term M. to be prejudice Implies negative discrimination why don't YOU look it up M.. that was a real Nice try though!

Example M. he is a man of "discriminating taste" that's positive. Not one of you has even attempted to answer "how is it wrong to abort all blacks if abortion is not a BAD thing."

About time you are saying abortion is wrong you just said it would be detrimental and said it was a 'moral' question. I agree.

no your logic is faulty Wendy G. "Eliminate a group.." by aborting them you are doing What? to a group of What Wendy? Nice Try though..

Let me repeat to discriminate is actually a neutral term. Let me give you a little Litmus test though. If I were to say "you could educate/empower/uplift every (pick a group) person in this country and your crime rate would go down" would you find that equally as repugnant? hmm?

"about time" I agree abortion is just another way of "destroying" children...

Answer 1

Extremely good question, Michael H!!!
Almost all who support abortion are tripping on their own answers to paint you as racist and, as you have pointed out, showing their hypocrisy without their even knowing it.

"Two negatives..." is a perfect example. Apparently the answerer realizes that abortion is as negative as racism, therefore bad but fails to recognize it.

Another states that black babies are indispensable leaving the question "are white babies (or brown, yellow or red) less so?"

Several opined that you should be aborted, or at least reported, apparently for making them think!!!!!

By eliminating blacks (or whites or Thai, Chinese or anyone else specifically, the crime rate would decline because ALL people engage in crime). They fail to see this because the statement SOUNDS racist when aimed at a specific race, failing to see that their stance on abortion being little more than nothing cannot be racist unless it is eliminating a human. If it is eliminating a human, the result is catastrophic to their moral viewpoint.

Happy Bullet brought up an interesting fact about one of the heroines of feminism, showing yet more of the hatred and ambiguity that is feminism. Well done, HB.

chdoctor, you gave a good answer except, sex education in schools is not quite the answer to abortion; it is part of the answer, however. Children need to understand exactly that the outcome of sex is pregnancy but it needs to go further to show the choices and outcomes of that choice. This is true for boys and girls. Both face different, but no less life-changing, circumstances of the result of engagning in sex, married or single.
There needs to be a truth in marriage class that is part of sex education, which should be expanded greatly, starting in the at least the 6th or 7th grades and just as much a prerequisite as English.

If it is morally wrong to abort black babies, or *only* black babies, is it no less so than white, brown, yellow or red babies? How about only half-black/white babies, marginally acceptable?

The substance of the question is, if abortion is not elminating a baby, race notwithstanding, how can it be wrong to target one specific race?
If abortion is no more serious than pulling a bad tooth or having a bad appendix removed, how can aborting only black babies be classified as racism if the abortion is not eliminating a human?
Conversely, if aborting all black babies is bad, aborting any baby cannot be less so.

One final point: MadforMAC. Do you REALLY think 2 million babies are aborted each year do to birth defects and rapes?
According to the US government, 5% of all rapes result in pregnancy and many of those women do not abort. Despite outrageous feminist claims, only a small percentage of women are raped in any given year. Birth defects are even more rare.
Abortion on demand is another form of birth control and that's a genuine fact.

Answer 2

okay, umm, interesting study you got going but I would have to say, I wouldn't necessarily call it racist to abort all black babies but I would call it morally, ethiclly, and culturally wrong. In fact that is wrong on so many levels because culture is a beautiful thing, to obilterate an entire population of a culture's generation is just detrimental not only to the mother's and their culture but also to everyone else. We would be robbed of individuals that we would never know, individuals that could solve world hunger, write a novel, have their own beautiful children or become the President. Now don't get me wrong I am not saying that abortion is wrong I am saying that the idea of destroying an entire cultural generation is wrong. This isn't a question about abortion, it's a question about morals.

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No, I am not saying abortion is wrong, you are missing my point, I am saying destroying an entire cultural generation is wrong, whether it be from abortion or if they were killed after birth (like the story of Moses) Abortion is not wrong. This statement hits upon a much deeper level than simply whether or not abortion is wrong or the statement is racist. I think in order to see the big picture you need to look past racism and the abortion controversey and focus on the fact that however these children are destroyed they would be destroyed and THAT (not abortion) is morally wrong.

Answer 3

it's an interesting and legitimate question, despite the predictable responses you are getting. Blacks commit more crimes than whites

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_crime

But what is a crime? I'm a criminal myself, at least as far as the system is concerned. So I ain't blabbering from any high horse. Most of the people locked up are locked up for stuff I don't think is criminal. Wouldn't some sort of treatment and/or community service/house arrest make more sense than locking up a crack dealer at a ridiculous expense? Costs a lot to keep people in jail.

And if we extend your line of reasoning ANY criminal should be prohibited from producing live offspring - whether he or she is white, black, yellow or green.

It's a real can of worms. I'd write more, but there's no real way to deal with it except bring back wholesale executions (the recidivism rate goes way down), and they that are executed produce no more to follow in their footsteps.

Me, I'll take my chances in the world we're in before I'd opt for any of the above.

Answer 4

Your statement is racist because you mixed up cause and effect. American Blacks are more likely to be part of the demographic group of the poors, which is more likely to commit crime, as opposed to whites which came to America to seek their luck and out of their free will (and as free people). So even if aborting all blacks would sink the crime right you got it wrong, because it is not the blackitude but beeing poor and growing up uneducated that makes blacks in America more likely to commit crime than whites. I assure you there is crime in countries where you see blacks only on the chapel show (and plenty of it).
I know it because I live in one. Try going to a random German city and setting up 6 blacks for a 3 on3 street game. Still enough crime though. Poeple want their drugs.

Answer 5

Yes, it is racist, doesn't matter if you are black or purple, it's racists.

You think you are making a statement about abortion with that? I think it is a very weak statement to say the least.

Simple facts about abortion: it is not used by most women as birth control, it is necessary for rape, incest and women who have medical conditions, the majority are women who are menopausal (over the age of 40 both mother and child have increased risks). Now, having said this, are you saying there should be no abortion at all, in any case, for any reason? If so, you are ignorant, unsympathetic of others plights and unaware of history. I suggest you read up on what took place in this country pre-birth control. You will find "back alley abortions" or "kitchen table abortions" which mamed and killed thousands of women who where trying to have control over their bodies and lives. They were desperate. Many died in childbirth due to multiple births and too many pregnancies and little medical care.

Answer 6

That sentiment is more real than you think. Margaret Sanger, founder of the American Birth Control League, which became Planned Parenthood, was a believer in Eugenics to stem the population of blacks. The original intention of abortion was exactly this.

THE ***** PROJECT - MARGARET SANGERS EUGENIC PLAN FOR BLACK AMERICANS
http://www.blackgenocide.org/*****.html

"Margaret Sanger aligned herself with the eugenicists whose ideology prevailed in the early 20th century. Eugenicists strongly espoused racial supremacy and "purtiy"," particularly of the "Aryan" race. Eugenicists hoped to purify the bloodlines and improve the race by encouraging the "fit" to reproduce and the "unfit" to restrict their reproduction. They sought to contain the "inferior" races through segregation, sterilization, birth control and abortion."

EDIT: Am I missing something here? As far as I can tell he's saying the statement "you could abort every black baby in this country and the crime rate would go down" is wrong - THEREFORE it must be wrong for a reason, ie. that there is damage done by abortion - ie. death of children.

Answer 7

i'm valuable which you're an clever guy or woman, in all hazard knowledgeable to a minimum of a intense college point, even perhaps have a kinfolk and a job, and perhaps you're making contributions to society in some way. Why, then, do you enable your hatred of a guy or woman, or an appropriate, skew your judgment to the factor you might have one in each and every of those ridiculous thought? I recommend, you're going back some years for the invoice Benett remark. Is it mandatory to attempt so stressful to be so shameful?

Answer 8

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I answered your original question. I simply didn't respond to the leading question that implied your answer.

I would invite you again to rephrase your question, but I have work to do. It's been fun.

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So you are saying "young people" are the cause of crime???? How can you say that? What kind of monster are you? They are kids!

Bait and switch is a tacky way to argue. Rephrase the question so it accurately addresses the topic. The conclusions being drawn from this type of argument are incorrect and tiresome.
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That IS a racist statement, Michael. You connected black people with the crime rate in this country. You implied that if the black population were to deteriorate, it would effect the crime rate and it IS racist. I don't care what color you say you are.

Abortion isn't a positive. Good point.

Overlooked: Forced parenting has predictably negative outcomes, unwanted children are neglected and abused, it is extremely difficult to find foster parents for drug babies, and legally our country makes it impractical to participate in adoption.

And since the question redirects you from actually addressing it, I will simply state one more time, that was, in fact, a racist statement.

Answer 9

It's tough to watch the black community vote consistently for pro-choice candidates when abortion accounts for the death of half of all African-Americans conceived. That's why people refer to this as genocide. While part of the blame ought to be laid squarely on the shoulders of the black community, part of the blame also ought to be laid on the shoulders of the medical community for providing a service that breaks their hypocratic (sp?) oath. Perhaps if sex education in black communities included the truth about such things, there could be progress in the right direction.

Answer 10

I personally believe abortion is a terrible thing and could NEVER do it myself. But it s necessary for it to be legal or all those women aborting the black babies you mention, would die too.