Who led the Bulls better when they were without the other, MJ (85,86 & 87) or Sottie Pippen ( 94 & 04 )?

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I say led MJ better. Because MJ without Pippen made the playoffs in 85, 86, 87, but as you can see, Pippen without MJ missed the playoffs in 04.
I also would like to mention that in 85 MJ was only a rookie(not developed yet), in 86 he missed 62 games, & in 87 it was only his 3rd year( still developing, missed most of his 2nd year) He also had a worst Bulls team then Pippen.....And in 94, well Pippen on the other hand without MJ was a 7 year vet that was playing with the same team that 3 peated with the exception of MJ, but with additives like Kukuc, Kerr, & Longley. Pippen also had a better coach in 94 then MJ had in 85, 86 & 87.....and Pippen as a leader let his team down by refusing to go in for a play(he was upset because Phil said Kukuc could take the last shot). Despite Pippen not going in the Bulls still won because of Kukuc's last shot victory.

P.S. MJ without Pippen was playing in the 80's & Pippen without MJ was playing in 94 & 04. Experts say the 80's were tougher.

I meant Scottie Pippen. I forgot to put the c in.

Hey Tweety,
what do you got to say now? You the one who said the 80's were tougher. After that explaination MJ clearly led the Bulls better. So bring it on!

I also meant to write, MJ led better!

Hoopfan,
I know the Bulls made the playoffs in 94. When I said they didn't make the playoffs I was talking about 2004. Scottie Pippen played on that team in 2004 & Michael Jordan didn't. So what do you have to say about that? At least Michael Jordan made the playoffs every year with the Bulls!

...and Hoopfan,
both played without the Bulls without the other one. The question isn't who had better success with other teams? It's who had better success with the BULLS without the other?...and that'll be MJ. He was playing in the 80's, it was during his maturing stage, and he made the playoffs every year.....but as you can see, in 2004 Pippen MISSED the playoffs...LMAO at you!

Well if you're going to excuse Pippen, well it's only fair to excuse MJ for them 5 years. At the beginning MJ was still developing & he was 38 to 40 years of age & injured when he was with the Wizards(but still remained to be the only 40 year old to reach 40 points in a game).

Answer 1

have to be jordan as you said pippen didn't make the playoffs without jordan

Answer 2

James, what the hell are you talking about?

The Bulls DID make the playoffs in 1994. As a matter of fact, they made it to the second round. They lost to the Knicks in seven games, after one of the most pitiful calls in playoff history.

I know it breaks your little heart to hear that, but yes they did make the playoffs that year. They also made it the next year, and probably would have gone to the finals, had they not had a "rusty" Michael Jordan there to hold them back. lol

If Jordan was developing in 85,86, and 87, then Pippen was developing in 88, 89, and 90. And Jordan was the veteran then. Did Jordan lead them to any titles then? NO!

Pippen had a better career record and a better playoff record than Jordan. The only losing season Pippen had was 2004, and he only played in 23 games due to injuries ( similar to Jordan in 86 ). That was also the ONLY season he EVER missed the playoffs.

In Jordan's 5 seasons without Pippen, he posted 5 LOSING records, missed the playoffs twice, and was 1-9 in playoff games.

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Once again James, read my post. The Bulls were rebuilding in 2004. Pippen was brought in for a leadership role. He only played in 23 games due to injuries ( or does that excuse only apply to Jordan ).

Answer 3

the 90s Bulls had a much extra useful helping solid than any of the 80s communities Jordan performed with. yet Jordan nevertheless is extra useful than Pippen. One exciting actuality: the 'ninety two Bulls won sixty seven video games, the only reason the checklist seems so stunning between 'ninety 3-'ninety 4 (whilst pleading Pippen's case) is using the fact the Bulls have been given off to a terrible start up in 'ninety 3. The Bulls of the 1st 3-peat have been on the point of sixty 5+ win communities, and in 'ninety two, have been even on %. to win 70.

Answer 4

Easily MJ. He was able to bring the team to the play-offs and do well in the play-offs with out Pippen. He obviously was better with Scottie, but Scottie really struggled without MJ. He wanted to be the leader but couldn't handle the responsibilities of being the leader in stressful situations.

Answer 5

All signs point to Herpes.