Is God a creation of God?

Question

I mean, if God created all the things and God is a thing, then God has created Himself too!

Ain't I right?

I've just thought of that after reading some answers to questions of mine...

What do you think of that?



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Answer 1

God (from a philosophical point of view) is not a thing. You should try reading Thomas Aquinas. He had this to say:

1. All things we see are in movement or could be move. They do not move on their own but are caused to be moved. Everything that has ever moved was caused to move by something before it. If you go all the way back, God is what caused the first thing to move.

2. The world we live in is one of sufficient cause. All things were sufficiently caused by something before it. Nothing is sufficient cause of itself. the first efficient cause was God.

3. in nature, we find things are posible to be or not to be. Things can be generated, corrupted, and consequently they can be or not be. It is impossible for these things to always exist. If something can stop existenting, then it must have started existing and this is the case for all things in the universe. Everything that exists comes into existence through something else that already exists. Because all things are caused to be, there must have been one time where there was nothing. nothing could come from this nothing because something must exist to be able to create something else. therefore, we must admit the existence of some being having of itself its own necessity, and not receiving it from another, but rather causing in others their necesity. this is God.

4. There is a gradation that can be found among all things. Among beings there are some more and some less good, true, noble, and the like. but MORE and LESS are predicated of different things according as they resemble in their different ways something which is the maximum. so, there is something that is the truest, the best, the noblest. consequently, something which is most in being, is also the cause of all in that genus, as fire, which is the maximum of heat, is the cause of all hot things. Therefore, there must also be something which is to all beings the cause of their being, goodness, and every other perfection; and this is God.

5. We see things which lack knowledge act for an end and it is nearly always obvious from the way they act and it is nearly always the same to always obtain the best result. because they are achieving the result the same way everytime and it is the most obvious straight forward, best way, it is not fortuitous but designed. Now, something that lacks knowledge cannot act towards an end without being directed by some being with knowledge as the arrow is directed by the archer. therefore, there is some intelligent being by which all natural things are directed to their end. this being we call God.

Answer 2

God has always been and always will be. He has no beginning and no end, so no, He didnt' create Himself.

In Genesis 1:1, there are hidden things in there if one combines what we know from science, with what is in the Bible. The Bible states:

In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. - Genesis 1:1

"In the beginning" implies TIME.
TIME = 1. past 2. present, 3. future

"God created the heavens".
heavens relates to: 1. length 2. width 3. height

"and the earth"
the earth has three states of matter: 1. solid 2. liquid 3. gas

It's interesting how there is a trinity, from the ultimate Trinity (1. the Father 2. the Son 3. the Holy Spirit)

The Bible also says we are made in His image (1. body 2. soul 3. spirit)

Anyways, to restate the answer to the question, God has always been and always will be. He has no beginning and no end, He is outside of time. He MADE time. He's completely outside of the "past, present, and future."

Imagine yourself at a huge parade that spans many blocks. You call your friend to see where he's at. He tells you he's near the start of the parade and he comments on the McDonald's float, how Ronald McDonald is making the kids laugh with various props.

To your friend, that is his present. To you, it is your future because you haven't seen it yet.

Suppose you get a call from another friend who is further down the parade than you are. You see the McDonald's float approaching the block you're on. To the first friend you talked to, the McDonald's float is now his past. To you it will soon be the present, you can see it coming. To the friend you're currently on the cellphone with, it is his future.

Now, imagine someone in a blimp who can see the entire parade. To that person, everything is happening simultaneously.

I hope that made sense =) I hope I explained it well, it makes sense in my mind.

Back to the question =). The question of if "God is a creation of God" tries to put Him in our reality. To have matter, we need a place to put it. The matter must also be put in a certain time period. That's how our reality works, we have time, space, and matter. However God made this reality and He's outside of this reality. But once again, simply put, He has always been and He will always be =)

Answer 3

By definition God always was and always will be. So God did not have to create himself. Since the idea of creating from nothing is illogical, it fits that all of God's creations are created from God himself/itself/herself.
While we may never be able to completely understand the real nature of God, I do believe we can make progress in further understanding his nature than where we are currently. After all man is a "learning being".
It has helped me to futher my understanding of God by using the following analogy: When we use the word automobile, we are refering to an assembly of various components, none of which is called an automobile,that all work together to produce a desired effect. In a like manner all the components of the universe including you and I are all parts of a much larger assembly( I use that term loosely) that we refer to as God. In essecence nothing exists that is apart from God.

Answer 4

The problem with your question is that it uses two different senses of the word "thing". When people say that god created "all things", they usually mean "all of the material universe". God itself, on the other hand, is the original Thing that exists outside the universe.

Besides, it is simply illogical to suggest that something created itself. Things cannot predate themselves, for obvious logical reasons.

Answer 5

That is a very tough question, depending on your belief system.

Looking at it from a Biblical prospective, God has always existed, better yet, God created Time and everything in the known and unknown universe. This is incomprehensable to the human mind, and yet its clearly witnessed throughout the amazing and awesome universe that we live in. that "God", as He has revealed himself to us, is The Creator. Not created. Eternal and immutable.

(Isa 40:28 KJV) Hast thou not known? hast thou not heard, that the everlasting God, the LORD, the Creator of the ends of the earth, fainteth not, neither is weary? there is no searching of his understanding.



(Rom 11:33 KJV) O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out!





(Rom 1:20 NIV) For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities--his eternal power and divine nature--have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.

He has reveald himself, clearly as our Loving Creator.
If you seek him you will find him:
(Amos 5:8 KJV) Seek him that maketh the seven stars and Orion, and turneth the shadow of death into the morning, and maketh the day dark with night: that calleth for the waters of the sea, and poureth them out upon the face of the earth: The LORD is his name:

(Heb 11:6 KJV) But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

Answer 6

Lots of religions and beliefs hold that God just came into being, either spontaneously, appearing due to fate, or through his own power. Quite a lot of philosophers have ruminated that Man created god (made him up, or even made him real), Feuerbach and Nietzsche being examples.

Answer 7

Since we cannot perceive Nothingness, something had to be created for us to call it God, and He said: "Let there be light"....

Nobody has ever learned anything about Nothingness; which is the unattainable divinity, and very few people have learned about the Light, but eventually we'll all learn about it.

So the answer to your Q is yes, Nothingness came to existence and we call that existence or being God.

Answer 8

Some things are just way over our heads. We just weren't meant to understand God and are not to question or test him. He just is what he is.

Answer 9

By definition the answer must be No.. God is by definition the First Cause.
I Cr 13;8a

Answer 10

In my opinion, no one, or thing, created God. He was just there.

He's a constant; He's always been here, always will be.