Im just wondering if there are any Irish people who actually want the full independence of are country anymore

Question

just because we are rich and doing well dosent mean that we should stop the persuit for the complete independence of are island and i dont mean support terrorists or anything like that im talking about bertie actually sitting down and saying we would like to open talks about some way of returning northern ireland to the republic. even if it is like a hong kong thing such as we get a county back every 50 or 70 years or something thats plenty of time for are great economy to develop the county up to irelands standards.

Answer 1

Id like to see it happen, but what then happens the people who are in the north and consider themselves British - seems very complicated to me. Again, I am nor referring to terrorists or thugs, but the normal people are born and bred there?? bit like Israel/Pallestine, on-going debate, with Ireland, hopefully drawing towards the end of troubles.

Answer 2

I'm 2nd generation Irish, and would love to see just one Ireland. But as someone has already pointed out well, it's very complicated. If everyone in the country was the same faith, nationality etc etc, and Britain had only just divided it, then there would definitely be reasons to unite it again, but as mentioned, we're talking hundreds of years now.

Even in Germany, although one side was communist and the other capatilist, the reason that worked was because basically rule under communism sucked and the people still felt German, not united under the sickle and hammer.

Unfortunately, I can't see it ever happening, as there's simply too many people who regard themselves as British. Look at the Falklands or Gibraltar - even though they're thousands of miles away and could technically be Spanish or Argentinian citizens, they're amongst the fiercest opponents to being anything but British.

Answer 3

i am in full support of having ireland as a whoel country. have parents both sides of the line, i grew up a republican, through no one forcing my judgement one way or another.
I have read books on what happend, and even know people who have died in the bombs.

I dont agree with the terrorisits either, but unfortuantly they stand out adn get headline as its a shocking sense,where as the communities who get on with daily life and survive each day living ith their neighbours, adn actually give helping hands to those that 30 years ago would never have helped, are making huge steps in their own way of seeing northern ireland as a sepeate state.

Basically, the north of ireland was screwed up from the 1916 time. And due to english poeple having been planted in ireland back in Henry VIII etime, these people have laid their own grounds, gotten to know people, gotten married, had children etc. The people there these days have as much right to be on the land as the irish.

I woudl say make t its own state, as at least neither bertie nor tony can rule either side.
And then once and for all, northern ireland can take care of itself, instead of being told what to do, when to do it by 2 different countries.

Answer 4

The GFA states :-the present wish of a majority of the people of Northern Ireland, freely exercised and legitimate, is to maintain the Union and, accordingly, that Northern Ireland's status as part of the United Kingdom reflects and relies upon that wish; and that it would be wrong to make any change in the status of Northern Ireland save with the consent of a majority of its people.

Try re-wording the question. "we get a county back." You don't own it.

Answer 5

I cannot say what I think of anyone that believes that religion rules. I would be taken off this site in a flash.
Freedom of speech is essentially but tolerance is more so.
I am a Brit C of E married to an Irish Catholic and nobody will stand between us. I think that the whole problem is mad.
However I watched the Catholic kids in red jumpers going to school about a year or two ago, the loyalist parents jeering an throwing bombs and I thought, let them burn in hell.
What is your problem. One man one vote and if you don't like it get OUT.
Come to Britain where Islam rules.

Answer 6

Isn't it up to the people of Northern lreland to decide? What right has Bertie or Tony or anyone got to go over their heads on this?

Edit: Below, Steph D shows her embarrassing ignorance and bigotry by stereotyping British people and actually assuming anyone in Britain cares about "empire" or keeping NI as part of the UK in 2007.

Go and educate yourself, you're embarrassing.

Answer 7

I would like to see it happen someday, but I don't think it will be anytime soon. Ireland is one of the last outposts of the British empire. It took them so long to get a hold on us that I don't think they will be willing to let the North go for a long time.

Answer 8

The need wouldn't arise if other countries wasn't so greedy