I hear things like, "A woman can do anything a man can do!", or "It's time for a woman President", and I just couldn't disagree more. Men and women were not created equal, the man should always be the head of his household, (if he is not abusive), and I believe the womens lib movement did more damage to our society, by undermining what a mans role should be, at home, or in politics. And I personally don't want any woman (especially Hillbillery) to go up against our enemies in the Middle East, where they have such low regard for their own women. Can you imagine how much more respect we will lose from them? Can't men just be men, and women be women? We need our women doing what they were designed to do, being caretakers and nurturers, and actually raising these children they have. And yes, I do believe women are smart, and capable, and strong,etc.. but for God's sake why can't they do the most important "job" they will ever have? Being a Mother, if they have children.
2007-02-27
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Most of you missed the point entirely. Besides the Middle East, we have China, Japan, Russia, etc...where to one degree or another, they do not respect a womans political authority. Yes, I do know that women have choices, and I certainly am not a doormat or the submissive type. And I didn't say that raising children was the "only" thing a woman could do, I said that if you "choose" to have a child, then do your job as a Mother. Just as a man who has a child should do his job as a Father. I would bet that all the ones that answered my question with such hostility, would probably consider themselves "liberal" which means to me, anything goes, which is why maybe our society is so broken down with unwanted children, sexual deviants, abortion, greed and on and on. And if you need to argue the point that a woman is so equal with a man, then argue with God himself, because in case you missed that well known fact, a man was created first, and then a woman was created to be his helper.
2007-02-27
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THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU!!! YOU are the smartest woman I have ever heard in this sad forum. I thoroughly agree with you 100,000%!! You get a A triple + and a big gold star!
hillery is the Third Incarnation of the Anti-Christ. If she should somehow get elected, we are ALL in for deep trouble.
I would love to shake your hand and give you a well deserved big hug and kiss and buy you dinner if that was possible. You just reminded me of my beautiful and very intelligent sister, and that is a compliment of highest esteem.
2007-02-27 16:27:08
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answered by Anonymous
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You are right about Hillary Clinton. She will destroy marriage by creating a Nanny State. Men and women won't work and raise a family in a Nanny State. Also, terrorists will look at Hillary Clinton as a sitting duck. She won't know how to make any decisions to defeat evil men. She didn't even have enough intelligence not to marry an evil man. None of this means a woman can't go to work and perform as well as a man, but that's certainly not going to happen if Hillary becomes President. Women will just stay at home and be taken care of by Hillary's Nanny State, and they won't have any children. The hard-working people are coming from Mexico. Those people are having big families, and they don't need the government to take care of them. That's why liberals hate Mexican immigrants so much.
2007-02-27 17:21:23
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answered by Anonymous
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I agree with you on some points, but I think you've missed the boat.
Agreed: men and women are fundamentally different.
Counterpoint: that doesn't mean all women are the same (or all men for that matter).
Whether Hillary Clinton is up to the challenge of office is debatable. I'm not a fan, but that's not because she is a woman. Besides, is she indicative of all women? That's like saying we shouldn't elect a male because they're all like Bill (see counterpoint above).
As far as the women's liberation movement doing more harm than good - there are some valid arguments for that view. I think the move forward did good for both sexes, but there were extremists who prefered to undermine the male gender then simply empowering women.
Losing respect in the Middle East should the U.S. elect a female president....hmmmm. Golda Meier was Prime Minister of Israel from 1969 to 1974. Margaret Thatcher was Prime Minister of Great Britain for 11 years (1979 to 1990). Neither country seems to have fared any worse for it. In addition, women are being elected to public offices in places like Afghanistan and Iraq (admittedly, not in large numbers, yet). I like to think this cancels out that argument.
Of course, is our goal to earn the respect of countries in the Middle East by electing officials only they would approve of? I suppose we could always ask Evo Morales or Hugo Chavez to run....
Bottom line: there are over 150 million women in this country. I'm sure you'll agree all of them are not cut out for motherhood (uh, Britney Spears, Anna Nicole Smith, etc.). Is it that difficult to believe there isn't at least one capable of running this country?
2007-02-27 16:36:17
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answered by mnjarmour@sbcglobal.net 1
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Why do you think women's role in society should be limited by tradition? This is not 1950. You can do whatever you want with your life, but not all women want the same things. If a woman is qualified to do a job, why shouldn't she have the opportunity? Not all women want to have children anyway. I don't. I am not a fan of Hillary, but it has nothing to do with her having a vagina.
All of these women have lead countries:
Sirimavo Bandaranaike Sri Lanka
Indira Gandhi India
Golda Meir Israel
Elisabeth Domitien Central African Republic
Margaret Thatcher UK
Maria de Lourdes Pintasilgo Portugal
Mary Eugenia Charles Dominica
Gro Harlem Brundtland Norway
Milka Planinc Yugoslavia
Benazir Bhutto Pakistan
Kazimiera Danutë Prunskienë Lithuania
Khaleda Zia Bangladesh
Edith Cresson France
Hanna Suchocka Poland
Kim Campbell Canada
Tansu Çiller Turkey
Sylvie Kinigi Burundi
Agathe Uwilingiyimana Rwanda
Chandrika Kumaratunga Sri Lanka
Reneta Indzhova Bulgaria
Claudette Werleigh Haiti
Sheikh Hasina Wajed Bangladesh
Janet Jagan Guyana
Jenny Shipley New Zealand
Irena Degutienë Lithuania
Nyam-Osoriyn Tuyaa Mongolia
Helen Elizabeth Clark New Zealand
Mame Madior Boye Senegal
Chang Sang South Korea
Maria das Neves Ceita Baptista de Sousa São Tomé and Príncipe
Anneli Tuulikki Jäätteenmäki Finland
Beatriz Merino Lucero Peru
Luísa Dias Diogo Mozambique
Radmila Sekerinska Macedonia
Yuliya Tymoshenko Ukraine
Maria do Carmo Silveira São Tomé and Príncipe
Angela Merkel Germany
Portia Simpson-Miller Jamaica
Han Myung Sook South Korea
Sühbaataryn Yanjmaa Mongolia
Song Qingling (Sung Ch'ing-ling) People's Republic of China
María Estela ('Isabel') Martínez de Perón Argentina
Lydia Gueiler Tejada Bolivia
Vigdís Finnbogadóttir Iceland
Maria Lea Pedini-Angelini San Marino
Agatha Barbara Malta
Carmen Pereira Guinea Bissau
Corazon (Cory) Aquino Philippines
Ertha Pascal-Trouillot Haiti
Sabine Bergmann-Pohl German Democratic Republic
Violeta Barrios de Chamorro Nicaragua
Mary Robinson Ireland
Edda Ceccoli San Marino
Patricia Busignani San Marino
Sylvie Kinigi Burundi
Chandrika Kumaratunga Sri Lanka
Ruth Perry Liberia
Rosalía Arteaga Serrano Ecuador
Mary McAleese Ireland
There are 15 more but I think you get the point.
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"Most of you missed the point entirely. Besides the Middle East, we have China, Japan, Russia, etc...where to one degree or another, they do not respect a womans political authority."
So what? Should we just refuse to elect women leaders based on other nations social problems? What if they didn't respect Christians, does that mean we should never elect a Christian leader?
"Yes, I do know that women have choices, and I certainly am not a doormat or the submissive type. And I didn't say that raising children was the "only" thing a woman could do, I said that if you "choose" to have a child, then do your job as a Mother. Just as a man who has a child should do his job as a Father."
So, if a woman has a child she should not work or take public office, but if a man has a child he is free to do whatever he wants still as long as he comes home every night and pays the bills? Why shouldn't the man stay home and the woman go out and work. My husband wants to stay home with our child if we ever decide to adopt someday. I make way more money and I would go crazy without my career.
"I would bet that all the ones that answered my question with such hostility, would probably consider themselves "liberal" which means to me, anything goes, which is why maybe our society is so broken down with unwanted children, sexual deviants, abortion, greed and on and on."
You have no idea what liberal means. It does not mean anything goes, we just don't think there is only one way to live your life. As long as you are doing no harm, it doesn't bother me. I don't think liberalism is to blame for unwanted children, sexual deviants, abortion and greed. I know a conservative man who got my best friend pregnant, told her to have an abortion, which she as a liberal chose not to do, told her he didn't want the kid, and he makes plenty of money but he won't pay child support or see his kid because he is greedy and selfish. On top of all that he has been accused of rape more than once, and that is definitely sexually deviant. Oh, wouldn't it be so simple if we could just blame all problems in society on liberals. Unfortunately, it goes way beyond any one group of people.
"And if you need to argue the point that a woman is so equal with a man, then argue with God himself, because in case you missed that well known fact, a man was created first, and then a woman was created to be his helper."
Oh, is that a fact? There are many creation stories. The one I believe is that the earth is our mother and our father and the earth gave birth to man and woman as equals. How do you know your belief is any more correct than mine? You could be right, but so could I. Religion is subjective. Many people believe in Buddhism just as strongly as you believe in Christianity, so how do you know that Buddhism isn't the true religion? You have your right to your belief, but just because you believe woman is man's servant does not mean that it is true. I don't believe that, so why should I live my life as a servant? My husband would laugh at the idea of one of us being the other one's servant. We are equals, and neither of us would have it any other way. Oh, and he was raised Catholic and loves Jesus, but he believes Jesus wanted women to be seen equally because when he was resurrected he first showed himself to women and not men. He believes this is because Jesus wanted women to be taken seriously in society and have the status of being important enough and trusted enough for Jesus to have shown himself to them first, before any man.
2007-02-27 16:18:33
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answered by Seraphim 3
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You have a right to think as you do but you are selling women way too short. Yes I agree, Hillary is not the right person to have in the white house. But not because she is a woman. Are you saying the Margaret Thatcher was not formidable? I never wanted children. They suck you dry of brain cells and any life you ever had. Who left the home first? The wife or the husband who walked away? I do believe if you have children, a parent should be there to give them the guidance they are so greatly lacking today. You have your right to believe as you do, and I have mine.
2007-02-27 16:19:04
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answered by Anonymous
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I won't comment on Hillary issue, but i agree with rest of the things....Well woman and men are assigned seperate duties and they should be perfect in that......but the problem with today's woman is that she want to do wht is the duty of men......and also carry her own duties fully, she is intended to take more responsibilities that is not assigned to her even......don't know why?? Wht i think is that a men can make better decision in politics than woman because women are generally emotional and it would effect the political decisions and can make the things worse........I m not saying that woman can't head the state but i have seen a female prime minister ruling my country twice and she had made the worse damage to my country..... she herself was not that bad but she is married to a corrupt person and she did wht her husband told her to do.......while a man is not influenced by such things.Well buddy being a mother is a dignity for woman.......not insult.......A man can not be a mother thats for sure....but today's woman is running after men status......wht a believe is that man and woman are equal........in all regards but they have seperate specialities which they should carry in their own way.........Let the men do their jobs and let woman do their.....we should not get ourselves confused !
LOL !! and i know most of the women here won't agree with me.....but i m entitled to my opinion and i appreciate yours !
2007-02-27 17:42:56
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answered by ★Roshni★ 6
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I am a homemaker who has traditional values like you do but - I am my husband's partner. He married a partner and not a lesser individual or someone who is subservient.
I think this society is being destroyed by the decline of the traditional family. SOMEONE has to put the family FIRST or it will crumble. Someone has to nurture and teach right from wrong while the husband provides for the family. If the mom is out working - WHO does this?
WE have raised 4 outstanding children. They have morals and a very strong work ethic. They all have told me that they want to raise THEIR children how they were raised. THAT is the best "gift" they could have ever given us!
I think a woman could do a fine job as President. Likely she would be older and her children grown up.
THANK GOD for the differences of men and women!
2007-02-27 16:20:20
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answered by Anonymous
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Wow, you are really being attacked for expressing your viewpoint. For those who cannot think for themselves, they will generally just attack another's viewpoint. But I would have to say the political leanings of most of the responders is left.
I personally don't feel a woman should be president just because she is a woman. If she has the best qualities for the office, then the voters can decide. Unfortunately, most of the voters are uninformed and will vote for Hillary for two reasons:
Because she is a woman.
Because she is not Bush.
Most will not vote FOR the actual person.
2007-02-28 00:06:05
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answered by Thundercat 7
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Hillbillery? Sorry, she's a Midwesterner just like myself. You know, I have been a feminist for most of my life. I think you misunderstand exactly what a feminist really is. For instance, I think if you feel that way, then that life is perfect for you, truly. Feminism is about having choices, and some women choose the home, some choose career and some blend both. We are not of the ilk that think if a woman stays home she is wasting her life, or sacrificing herself or some such nonsense. We're about the CHOICE. And if we are about the choice, and many many women choose to use the additional natural talents that come right along with motherhood and being a wife. They don't feel they have to ignore one to do the other. Whatever you choose for yourself is fine. But you are wrong about the Middle East as far as them listening to women. Have you forgotten Indira Gandi or Golda Meir? Condeleeza Rice routinely deals with the top leaders in every Middle Eastern country. They treat her with respect and work with her willingly.
In my opinion women ARE just being women when they use all their talents. Hillary Clinton raised a fine young woman, who is on her own now. She's done many important jobs, including being a mother, and she will continue to do more. I raised two boys and have now returned to college to finish up. I made my choices, and I worked part-time, and my husband and I share the decision making in our marriage. We are very, very happy, both of us. We work well as a team, and that team consists of two adults capable of sharing decision making and sharing the title of head of household.
I don't wish to be insulting, because that is counterproductive, but I have to say I am very glad that women who feel as you do are few and far between these days.
EDIT: Sorry, I think you're deliberately missing the point simply because you don't wish to see it. China, Japan, Russia - they have all dealt with women leaders in a respectful manner. This claim of other countries having no respect for a woman leader is patently ridiculous, but believe whatever shores up your argument. You base your belief about a "woman's place" on a literal interpretation of the Bible. That explains a lot... Sorry I wasted my time.
2007-02-27 16:23:37
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answered by Anonymous
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The point... is that you have a choice to do what you want.
Want to stay home? Go ahead.
Want to run for president? Go ahead.
Let the people vote. Personally I'm not voting for Hillary but she's running and that's fair just like every other human who runs.
2007-02-27 16:48:37
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I think....oh, what's the use? I think therefore I can't even begin to answer such a question!!!!
Women ARE the brains and the strength, and they should be able to do whatever they want. What if they don't WANT to be (or CAN"T???) mothers or wives???
I'm so disturbed by this question, I can't even go on! I suggest you go back in time; Beaver Cleaver is looking for a new mom!!
A woman without a man is like a fish without a bicycle.......
2007-02-27 16:29:29
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