Asking the goverment to make decisions in the doctor's office, or spending more money, just to put someone to death? My understanding of conservatism is that government stays OUT of personal lives, and spends responsibly. So is this conservative? If you say 'yes', how?
2007-02-27
06:06:09
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don't forget that just because they take the decision away from women, doesn't mean that abortion would go away or lessen...in fact, i can see genocide on the poor emerge. Who thinks the governemtn would make a better decision, than the woman?
2007-02-27
06:12:36 ·
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sprct, Ms. Shaivo is EXACTLY who I was thinking of...
2007-02-27
06:16:44 ·
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I don't make it clear that i am tlaknig about abortion, becasue I AM NOT, I am talknig about the government interfering in the doctor's office. And yeah, i think the husband cared more than THE POLITICIAN WHO DIAGNOSED HER VIA VIDEO!
2007-02-27
06:24:31 ·
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Barry Goldwater, the father of conservatism, was denied the nomination by the GOP for believing that conservatism did NOT have a social element. So no, it hasn't ALWAYS been that cons were 'socailly conservative', that happened with the neocon movement. Nice try, Ruth.
2007-02-27
06:28:53 ·
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moltar, i agree with the blood relatives part. i DON'T agree with the senator makng a diagnosis over the TV, and exposing this VERY private matter to the public. Not conservative, and NOT humane,. As far as what I would do? I support research to put an end to permanent types of suffering, like brain injuries and spinal injuries, as well as a host of others. but the 'stem cell research' debate is a different topic...
2007-02-27
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jen, I assure you, you NEVER thought just like me...ever. And you are wrong about my level of knowledge, as well as the intent of the question. but you guys never can answer a question, just a canned uninvolved faceless response about how abortion is murdering babies..OH EXCUSE ME! INNOCENT babies, not the 'guilty' ones.
2007-02-27
07:38:53 ·
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Shiraz, you grossly overestimate my interest in you.
2007-02-27
07:39:56 ·
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Heck no. But most of the conservatives we have now don't try to 'conserve' anything for anything. In fact, by their economic and social decisions, I'd compare them and the so-called liberals to, since this is a medical situation, two patent medicines: High Popalorum, and Low Popahirum. The first has 30% oil, and 70% sugar. The second has 30% sugar, and 70% oil. So, in the end, which does ya more good, eh?
Conservativism, in it's foremost definition economically, should be about the reduction of government. The high side is that it means that government shouldn't be able to tax you to death. The bad side is that it can't provide you with the help you're gonna need in this world. Socially, it should be about allowing you to make the decision YOU and your DOCTOR decide upon, whatever that decision is. And since technically that's where it and classical leftism overlap, I really didn't think it should be a big deal, ya know?
... But, you raise too many good points. Our government and it's ideas of politics seem way out of whack to me, for what it's worth. But then again, I could be boring you half to death; this is just my two cents.
Edit: Also, where in the heck are all these insults coming from? She just asked a good question, folks. No need to get personal, geeze...
2007-02-27 07:47:46
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answered by crimsononice 2
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2016-10-02 02:03:45
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The conservative position is that government should be limited to what is explicitly stated in the Constitution. Law enforcement and prosecution of criminals is a stated power of the government.
Conservatives believe that the government has no business telling any person what to do with their private property, whether it is your house or your body. However, committing a crime, such as murder, is the exception when the government does have the power to interfere with private property for the purposes of law enforcement.
Murdering a 2 year old in your house is no different than murdering a 3 month old in your uterus. The are both equally human (proven by DNA and common sense) and both equally deserving of the government prosecuting and punishing the murderer.
2007-02-27 06:22:29
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answered by Aegis of Freedom 7
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Don't forget about passing a special law aimed at prolonging the life of one brain dead female in Florida.
Should we really be forced to endure a debilitating, slow and painful death with a terminal illness, or should our loved ones be allowed to just end the pain quickly, with dignity.
The government should never have the right to make personal medical decisions.
That right is reserved first and foremost to the terminally ill person followed by the next of kin followed by no one else because it is none of their business.
This "conservative" interference in our private lives is disgusting.
Edit - Financial interest in the death of the terminally ill is an entirely different issue.
Forcing a prolonged death does nothing but line the pockets of the doctors, hospitals and drug companies.
Is this what we really have life insurance for?
So we can pay off these leaches when the government makes it impossible for a terminally ill person to painlessly end their life?
All the doctors, hospitals and drugs in the world cannot save the life of an end stage cancer victim, the brain dead or any other terminally ill person. That is why they call it terminally ill, these people are going to die no matter what you do.
Why do we allow them to be victims of the financial leaches as well?
2007-02-27 06:14:56
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answered by sprcpt 6
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Hi -- In general you're right -- conservatism believes in the power of the individual, and that government should be as limited as possible. It's not quite clear what decisions you're referring to in the doctor's office (if you're referring to abortion, yes, conservatives generally believe in the sanctity of life, but otherwise to stay out of your doctor's office as much as possible).
Re: spending -- yes, it is traditionally conservatives who have believed in a balanced budget and limited spending. That is why many conservatives do not consider the current administration asa truly conservative one -- it's got pretty loose purse strings.
2007-02-27 06:09:47
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answered by Chiquita 2
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Do you know how many Senators actually voted in the Shaivo case when it was ruled a unanimous vote??? Only three voted. 97 did not vote. What does that say about our government??? regardless of the topic.
2007-02-27 06:23:50
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answered by truth seeker 7
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Come on heidi, you're reaching on this one from the element that the Terry Schiavo case is not that black and white.
As a fiscal conservative, Government should spend responsibly.
But, it's also government's role to protect its citizens.
In the Schiavo case, you had a husband who basically abandoned his wife and wanted her death to occur for obvious financial gain. That her blood relatives stepped in on her behalf was noble and deserves recognition. What if you were in Terry Schiavo's condition? Wouldn't you want to know the people who love you wanted to keep you alive?
2007-02-27 06:34:03
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answered by MoltarRocks 7
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I am a conservative and to date have not asked the government or any general government official to accompany me to a doctors appointment.
Why should it cost more money to put someone to death? I own a 5mm and I can purchase a whole box of ammo for about $14. I believe what you are referring to is the lengthy trials, stay of execution, parole board hearings, government funded defense attorneys, feeding the most vile of society 3 times a day and providing them with cable television, excercise equipment, random entertainment, library useage and medical care.
Are you, so sublty, wanting to make an argument to support what is called "a woman's right to choose"? HERE WE GO>>>>
When a woman has an abortion, she is not offering herself up for the slaughter, it is her baby that will be torn apart and disposed of like garbage. The woman very likely will be treated with disrespect and leave feeling isolated, depressed and suffer anguish for the rest of her life...how liberating for modern women that is. Abortionists readily admit they view the woman as an animal and the baby like trash. (contact me personally or read LIME 5)Abortion is legal and available through all nine months of pregnancy...for any reason as long as the price is right. INNOCENT LIFE IS BEING DESTROYED IN THE NAME OF PURE SELFISHNESS DURING AN ABORTION...IF I CANT HAVE YOU NOONE WILL MENTALITY. One former abortion provider claims he personally performed over 250,000 abortions during his 11 year career and NONE OF THE WOMEN claimed rape or a life or death situation made them come in for an abortion. That happens to be the PRO CHOICE sides number one argument for abortion...and there is NO argument there.
If we stay out of personal lives should we then also glance out of our kitchen window to see our neighbor taking nude photos of his 3 year old daughter in provacative poses and "mind our own business"?
When you grow up someday you will start to think more clearly dear.
I used to think just like you, so ashamed.
2007-02-27 06:49:50
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answered by Anonymous
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I'm assuming that you are referring to the decision to get an abortion? You don't really make that clear. Conservatives want to do away with abortion because it is the MURDER of unborn babies. Its not a woman's choice of what to do with her body. That baby is not part of a woman's body, but is a separate life housed inside of it. You all have the choice to practice birth control or to abstain from sex, but that's not choice enough. You also want the choice to kill the baby you irresponsibly created. That has nothing to do with having the Government in charge of making your health care decisions.
And make no mistake, I do believe that abortion should be an available option if it is clearly shown that the life of the mother is in jeopardy. Why allow both to die?
And your claim that abortions will go on anyway. Yes they will. Murder is illegal but I read about it in the newspaper every day. Since it happens should we legalize it? Its about morals and responsibility, not about wanting the Government to expand its control over your life.
2007-02-27 06:20:03
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answered by meathookcook 6
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It seems to be becoming that way. Conservatives are SUPPOSED to be in favor of smaller government. However, just look at their stance on abortion. They want to be authorized to force a woman to give birth. That's a Neanderthal point of view. But if they try to overturn Roe, that's exactly what's going to happen - your government will have the right to make ALL medical decisions for you.
2007-02-27 06:10:23
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answered by Bush Invented the Google 6
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