If evolution is true and we evolved from apes, where did the apes come from?

Question

And don't say they evolved from other organisms. Where did the first organisms come from?

Answer 1

this theory is wrong
we descend of the first human created by god
apes are different

Answer 2

You skipped several steps in evolution, and the only step you didn't miss, you got wrong. We didn't come from apes.

Stardust
Comet
Primordial Soup and/or clay
Organic goo
RNA replicator
Cell
Many many single celled organisms
Mitochondria and chloroplast join cell
Many many single celled organisms
Multicellular organism
Many many multicellular organisms
Vertebrate
Lungfish
Land lungfish
Various obscure animals
Mammals
Primates
Common ancestor of monkeys and apes
Non human hominids
Ancestral humans (Human hominids, but still not quite Homo sapiens)
Homo sapiens

That is a very basic overview. Note that the common ancestors of apes and humans would have looked very different from the apes we know and love today. Some people seem to think they were the same.

They weren't.

Everything prior to the RNA replicator came from biochemical processes.

The Miller/Urey experiments, even though there is worthy discussion as to whether they had the right gasses in the right combinations that would mimic the atmosphere of the early earth, showed that important amino acids can be created through natural means. The Miller/Urey experiments produced something like 20 amino acids, several fatty acids, and some other compounds. Later experiments along the same lines, with different gasses and different engery inputs created other building blocks. All of the essential amino acids and fatty acids were created by processes that occur naturally on earth, one way or another. The Miller/Urey experiments used electricity (lightning). Other experiments used UV light, heat, pressure, etc.

When these aminos and fatty acids are mixed together, they self organize into longer chains. This is predictable and repeatable, just like the organization of iron filings within a magnetic field. They are simply abiding by natural laws which govern them.

Add these compounds to water, and they form microspheres. Microspheres have a selectively permeable membrane, and when they are placed in a solution with other proteins, they actually take these proteins inside them, through the membrane.

When artificially fossilized and viewed under a microscope, these microspheres are almost identical to fossilized bacteria that is over 3 billion years old.

How these microspheres became real, living things is still unknown, but science knows that it didn't come from "nothing."

I, personally believe that God made it happen, either through a miracle, or, more likely, through the natural laws that He created. Under the latter view, life will develope wherever and whenever conditions are appropriate.

Answer 3

Read more carefully - evolutionary theory does NOT claim that we evolved from apes. It claims that both we and apes evolved from a common ancestor.

So where did the ancestor come from? Good question - it obviously evolved from an early life form. So where did that life form come from? Good question, it obviously evolved from an even earlier life form. So where did that eariler life form come from? Good question.... and so on and so on.

If we follow this chain long enough, we come to "so where did the first stuff come from?". Some people claim the answer is God. Okay, cool. But wait, that makes God the new first thing - where did God come from?

Answer #1 - we don't know
Answer #2 - God didn't "come from" anything, God has always been here.

If you feel that answer #1 (we don't know) is a legitimate answer - we could have saved ourself a lot of trouble by using it earlier.
"Q: Where did early life come from?
A: We don't know.
Oh, okay, that's a legitimate answer."

If you feel that answer #2 (always been there) is a legitimate answer - we could have saved ourself a lot of trouble by using it earlier.
"Q: Where did early life come from?
A: It's always been there.
Oh, okay, that's a legitimate answer."

God may very well have created our universe - but then where did God come from? This is a very simple and very fair question. I've been asking it for years. I'm still waiting for a logically consistent answer.

Have a great day!

Answer 4

Saying we "evolved from apes" is a shorthand way of saying that we and the apes of today evolved from common or very similar ancestors that were more like apes than contemporary humans. Those creatures in teurn evolved over the millenia from other mammals that resembled something more like a squirrel.

Evolution happens when the environment changes making it easier for creatures to survive when some of them mutate. The mutations help them fit the new environment better, eat better, breed more, stay healthier. This (and not the ability to be stronger than other creatures) is what is meant by "survival of the fittest."

Check out the attached wikipedia article that talks about "evolution by jerks" and "evolution by creeps."

Answer 5

We didn't come from apes. We evolved from a common ancestor.

Where life first started is called abiogenesis. It is basically the right conditions, then amino acids form. Those can evolve to produce proteins, then eventually single-celled organisms.

And they've done a good amount of work on this in laboratory settings.

Answer 6

Free-floating chemicals.

Now, I KNOW what you're going to say. "So a bunch of chemicals just assembled themselves into an ape? That's ridiculous." Yes... THAT is ridiculous. But there are other ways...

One classic demonstration of this was the 'Miller-Urey experiment' (link 1). Scientists mixed a bunch of VERY common chemicals (water, methane, ammonia, and hydrogen) in a sealed chamber and exposed them to energy (sparks). In only a week, 10% of the carbon had changed into various organic compounds, including 13 of the 22 amino acids that are used to make proteins in cells. And that was just a week.

Thus it is pretty easily demonstrable that it's quite possible for many - if not all - of the basic building blocks of life to randomly assemble and not only be available, but ABUNDANT. After that, all it takes is a very simple (and not particularly long) strand of RNA to be thrown together that can duplicate itself.

Self-replicating molecules are probably more common than you suspect. Some of them are so prevalent that they are considered diseases - if you get one inside you, it starts to turn your normal proteins into copies of itself (scrapie, mad cow disease). Once the ball is rolling with a self-replicating molecule, then we can start to have competition, with those that reproduce and protect themselves better becoming more common naturally, and that easily leads into the vast and complicated array of life that you are familiar with.

None of this, of course, necessarily prevents the influence of some divine entity. Just like a gardener watching a plant grow, you can sit back and do nothing, or you can interfere at any step and produce different results. Thus many people fully support both this version of events AND divine creation stories. And some prefer to believe that there was no interference whatsoever. Whether one happened or the other is something that's likely to always remain outside the scope of science.

Hope that helps! Peace.

Answer 7

About a million other planets are in our solar system ! That they dont tell you about thats where ! With mother natures love since (the earth be alive shes like a giant turtle) the organisms did evolve. Everything evolves into spiritual and phsysical selves over time. Everything changes over time.

Answer 8

well i heard that we were fish fist...the evolved into fish monkeys and then cave monkeys and then the monkeys we are today. Other people say asteroids brought foreign elements that mixed together and created something like a cell or bateria or something. People who believe in god will just keep saying, "well were did the asteroid come from and were did that come from and so on and so on. I guess theres no proof of anything but that is why evolution is a theory and in my opinion, so is religion.

Answer 9

So, you want god as a " first cause ", do you? God was always here you would say to my question; " where did god come from "?. So, why can I not say; " the universe was always here ". That rather simplifies the explanatory model by eliminating a unexplained variable; god. I know a bit about the universe and know it is not imaginary ( at least we act that way ). Your extraordinary claims fall far short of even simple explanations.

Answer 10

they must have evolved from something similar to an ape, and before that, evolved from something slightly less similar, and before that, etc... i think the first organisms came from bacteria or something like that.

Answer 11

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