Shouldnt people with children pay MORE with taxes and not less?

Question

I understand that children are not cheap.

HOWEVER, most people with kids CHOOSE to have them. This isnt the 1600s where you need 10 kids to run a family farm, in this day and age the notion of giving people with kids TAX BREAKS is done so because its politically popular, NOT because its right.

People with children NEED more government services on average then those without (schools, childcare programs etc)

Shouldnt they have to pay MORE or at least pay the same amount as those WITHOUT kids? Why make those without kids help pick up the tab for those WITH kids?

Keep in mind i understand the reasons why people with kids pay less.

Costs associated with kids are there, but most people that have kids CHOSE to have them. Giving these people tax breaks is like giving people cheaper gas when they choose to buy a hummer. Its not right to the rest of the populace.

I am interested in the idea MORALLY.

SURE, but NOT at the expense of those without kids.

I am totally at a loss of how anyone can morally say that those with kids deserve a tax break because kids have a cost associated with them.

Lots of things are expensive to have, such as large boats. You have docking fees, gas costs, upkeep, etc.. Should those people with yachts get tax breaks as well?

Answer 1

Sorry Shakespeare--at 4 am with a sick kid I feel like I've already paid dearly--and that's just today. Seriously, you raised a good point. I really should not be entitled to tax breaks because I have children. Children are-as you correctly pointed out--a huge financial drain on a society. The elderly can also be, but they have contributed a lifetime of work (and taxes) before they need gov't assistance.
Your question also reflects a problem with school funding. Arizona created special zoning for adult only communities and exempted them from school bonds. The school districts are always asking for financial help and the elderly often vote against these bonds because they raise taxes. Therefore, not only do families with children get a tax breaks, but the children's educational needs result in increases of sales or property taxes when school bonds are issued.

Answer 2

This is an age old question, and here is some thoughts for you. A lot of times the elderly ask this question about school support. They raise their children and then complain that they still have to support school systems. Having children is something a thriving society has to promote. In some countries (like Scotland) Children cost a lot of money. So it seems parents are opting to have less children to reduce costs. Then when coupled with people moving out to other places you have a downward spiral that is hard to over come. Less people =more taxes for fewer tax payers= more people leaving, Or having less children. A nation of singles and childless parents do stimulate and economy as they spend on things, but they tend to travel more spending that money elsewhere, And if taxes get high they just move away!. Children promote local spending and longevity in community.

Answer 3

Yes , they should pay more taxes. If one family don't have money to rise a child than, that family should get aide from Government . If one family have more than 2,3 and have no income or a big income they should pay more taxes. A lot of family's make children just for that, for getting money and "advantages" and this got to STOP.
Why make 3-10 children and can't give them a proper carrying, education, time.This is not healthy for a nation. This is a communist thinking.

Answer 4

Because the Baby Factory welfare system wouldnt work.

The other problem is the only people having kids are the lower, unintelligent lower wealth bracket class. The middle class would step completely out of the whole thing, they in effect are right now if you look at stats. The people that are really having children like wildfire are the low income families that dont have money and are on welfare anyway.

We also have an entire section of our country that have come here illegally and they arent on the books anyway! The system of higher tax on families with kids couldnt possibly work because of this.

Answer 5

Ok, I'm gonna have to disagree with your point about consumption of government services. Yes, there are a lot of people with children on welfare. But there are a lot more people with children who DO NOT receive any government services outside of public education. Many of these families voluntarily pay for their children to participate in activites that help develop their children into productive adults who will not fall into the welfare system. Don't these responsible parents deserve a bit of a break?

At some point, you must view taxes as a means for providing a minimum quality of life for ALL citizens which translates into a composite standard of living for our country.

And for an eye-opening experience, I suggest you travel to a third world country to observe the standard of living and then see if you come home and complain about your tax rate.

Edit: Dude, most of the people wealthy enough to own yachts are business savvy and use them in such a way as to qualify for a tax break.

I agree with what has been said about welfare baby factories...the government needs to stop rewarding them for adding to their family size.
But please don't place all people with children in that category.
You chose to be child-free. I chose to have children...Can't we get along?

What changes would you make in the tax code? Would your plan be MORALLY fair to everyone?

Answer 6

Larger families are already paying more in consumer taxes such as sales tax, they contribute a large amount to the ecomony because they consume a larger amount of products and services, and they are providing for the future of our country -- no children today, no workers 20 years from now.
Trust me if you make a sufficient amount of money your tax breaks for having children get widdled away to nothing based on your income. You may get the child tax credit per child (which you spend WAY more than that just in additional sales tax every year!) but all the other little "perks" such as child care expenses or education expenses get dwindled down to nothing the higher the parents income goes. Evdently the government thinks you have enough money -- where this "enough" money supposedly is I wish they would tell me!
Parents pay for things non-parents don't have to - all of which goes back to contributing to the economy and is taxed. Parents are not skating on tax breaks trust me.

You say you are interested in this "morally" - well morally one generation has the moral duty to provide for continutation of a society. Again, no children today means no workers or citizens for tommorrow. If people do not "choose" to have children then who will be the tax payers of tomorrow? In the long run people with children are generating a longer string of taxation by "breeding" so to speak the next generation of people to be taxed. When a childless person dies - there ends there taxes, but when a parent dies they have left behing a few people to pay taxes.
Like I said - as a parent - I am not getting rich off tax breaks or government subsidies because I have children - but I am paying higher consumer taxes, higher bills, and higher entertainment expenses --- all of which is good for the economy. I am not sayin pity me because I have kids -- I chose to have them and I contribute a great deal to society because I have them. Federal taxes are only a minor portion of where revenue is generated in this country

Answer 7

they pay more. here is how...............they pay 500 dollars less in federal income tax. but now they pay 750 dollars for diapers. huggies parent corporation in a higher tax bracket pays 505 dollars extra in federal income tax.......so, how many seconds in a day. a us birth every 8 seconds.....a death every 16 seconds. here is a math problem how much extra money does the IRS collect because of new births and a death every 16 seconds. don't forget that 25% of the time when a person dies it is either an infant or a senior that wears diapers

Answer 8

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Answer 9

because most ppl with kids have alot more to spend in such as food ,clothes,heavier power bill for washing . and if kids want to play sports that is more money there too. so they hardly see a major portion of their check . I hope I helped.