Egyptians only. What do you think about this?

Question

A teenager stole the keys to his father's car. He took off like a rocket and killed 5 people because of his driving with excessive speed.
To here, the story seems ordinary. A reckless spoilt brat killing innocent bypassers with his recklessness. I wouldn't be attracted much to this story except for the fact that the father appeared now on TV asking and begging people for their forgiveness. The man seems really genuine and honest. He cried many times while expressing his heart felt sympathy with the families of the victims.
My question is : God forbid , and I repeat it God forbid, if you were in the families' shoes ' la kadar Allah' how would you feel ? And how would you react to the situation ?
Would you forgive him ? Or would you rather let justice take its course ?
Dig deep within your heart and tell me. Another thing I wanna add , that a sister of one of the victims called on the show and said " I hope your son dies or gets excuted for what he did" .

Answer 1

Well..if you ask me if this happened to me what would i do? That's hard to answer, but i have a son, and when i picture this happened to me, i find it VERY hard to forgive, it's possible to forgive but it need a lot of spiritual and emotional strength to do so. Those who God describe them as in a level far beyond good people which are "المُحسنون" so, in my opinion there must be a payback, either prison for the reckless boy (which i find useless and very revenging) or paying a tribute or whatever its name (الدية) to soothe the family who lost 5 of its members.

Now the real question rises in my head is Why?
Why this happened? does God take revenge from the Father in his son? or is it the contrary? is it a test? if yes, why does it have to be that cruel? or does all this story is a consequence of coincidences and bad luck for both of the families? those things confuses me a lot.
but it seems God works in most mysterious ways..

Answer 2

I fail to see your point. This is a tragic incident and unfortunately not a rare one. It happens all over the world. Same basic scenario with details changed. How I feel about it or what should be done about it really depends where I am' Every culture has its own laws to deal with "criminals" As becomes strikingly apparent the act of -for example- theft is not dealt with the same way n all cultures. Even within a culture the law is not absolute. It usually represents what majority believes is the right retribution for a crime. Look at the death penalty.
To be honest this is not something that I can imagine my reaction if something like that happened to me. It's like asking me capable of killing another human being. My Answer is I do not know. A lot depends on circumstance. My feelings in this are academic.

Answer 3

To me i am going to marry the guy who i love and decide to percentage some thing of my life with and characteristic a kin jointly nationality gained't come into it in any respect it really is not any longer significant to me what's significant to me is the emotions and love we percentage with one yet another. As i'm very a lot in love with an Egyptian and that i do not pick to be with absolutely everyone else ever i imagine i'd be marrying an Egyptian and that i'm able to't look ahead to that day.

Answer 4

I am not Egyptian. But I feel this is a question and a situation that could have its setting anywhere in the world .
Similar stories appear in Australian news and T.V. far too often.
It is undeniably a great tragedy,an awful waste of young lives full of potential,and I include in this the young driver. As whether found guilty or innocent he will never recover from the torment of that nights events.
I feel most loving parents could very much relate to Father of the boy responsible.
I feel great pity for the poor man. Our children are our children.
We love them, sometimes more than life its self.
What they do good or bad we feel a part of,and responsible for.
The actions of the sister were I would hope, carried out in a state that she was not responsible for at the time.
Grief can bring out the most powerful emotions.I can easily relate to her feelings and actions.
But it was totally inappropriate.
In reality, she has likely made it more difficult to get a truly unbiased judgement in a court of law.
That is the only place that has the right to judge him.
Were the facts can be presented without hysterics,in an orderly manner.
That is the only place where his actions should be judged . In a court of law.
Trail by media has become a part of our way of life and it is wrong.
We have seen too much of it in Western media.
In Australia ,which is one of the places in the world that has total freedom of speech,including the media. It has far too often become a case of trail by media.
With T.V. stations and newspapers setting up phone in polls,ring 180061 for innocent or 1800063 for guilty (example numbers).
I would hate to see that type of behaviour develop in Egyptian media.
But, it may be inevitable as we inherited from America.
As we know the media can be as corrupt as any government and just as, if not more powerful.
Here it can bring down a government and has done,and the bribes are bigger!
So I would say , I feel sorrow for the father, empathy with the sister and pity for all those involved.
However,it is a matter for the courts to alone to decide on the drivers guilt or innocence and his sentence and it should remain so.
We should not encourage any debate on guilt or innocence by the public.

Answer 5

Ok,1st wanna say to frouck that he definitely isn't a father yet as when he became a father he will know quite well that if his son kills him,he would still ask for forgiveness for him if he can.
If Lakadar Allah I was in a similar situation I think I won't be able to forgive,the biggest disaster could happen to a parent is losing their own son/daughter that is too harde to explain,when losing anyone and I mean it anyone father mother even husband or wife you kinda have deep in your mind a percentage of expectation that it might happen,but for your kids all what you think about that you wish to live long till they got married or till you see their kids or whatever,I'll speak form a mom's point of view and all what I know quite well is that when a mom lose her baby whom still on her belly didn't even led an eye on him that is just a devastating thing which led a friend of mine to a nervous break down,so what if this son/daughter you lived with raise,and share dreams with your partner about his/her future.so I think forgiveness will be hella away from your mind but frankly and maybe after a while I'll think about forgiveness JUST seeking god's mercy for my son/daughter by this act,but in all cases I don't think the parent's forgiveness should be count that much as it still society's right to punish this boy to stop him from doing it to an other one also to avoid others from doing the same,as for the father whom is begging mercy no matter what I still do feel for him for being a father,God help them all

Answer 6

It is actually a very complicated situation to emotionally judge the story you're telling. People tend to be selfish; families of the killed people wish to see justice with no consideration to the teenager, and parents of the teenager wish forgiveness for their son and an easy way out (as would any parents). I believe the father must have been crying for his son not for the people who died, unless you tell me he cries whenever he hears someone got killed!
Out of fairness and as a neutral party I think the teenager has to be punished, with suitable mercy due to his age and everything but he has to be suitably punished in order to learn his lesson and realize that recklessness has a very expensive price to be paid and that he cannot break free from the punishment for jeopardizing lives of others. This will also help him to consider his steps and think more carefully in his future life.

Answer 7

I will always feel sorry for how the victimes died .. however do not think it will be easy to forgive his sense of irresponsibility .

I believe in destiny and I believe God has a plan for everything and nothing comes as a coincedence , that will make me feel a bit better, but I will still be feeling so bad about the kid's attitude..

I will drfinitaley forgive the father , it will be a very sensitive situation for him

Answer 8

Excessive speed? There is no speed limit - everyone drives with excessive speed and recklessly. How many people are killed in MVA's in Egypt everyday? The real crime here is that the teenager "stole" the keys to the car and drove it without permission. But you can't single him out for driving recklessly. Have you been in a car in Cairo lately?

Answer 9

Dayz mann that happend in Egypt..thats something that would happen in England..correction..it does happen..
I would be soooooooooooooo angry if i was the sister of a girl who had died because of his foolishness i would be so angry and that all he cared about was showing off and not about the consequences..I would tell him to say sorry to every family and visit each and every one of the people's grave with flowers for them (including my sister)..I am sure each family would be so angry with him they wouldn't allow him to attend the funeral.
I would like him to say an apology deep from his heart, if he bought an expensive gift for each family (including mine) i would be so angry because No amount of money would ever be able
to bring my sister back...

After that I would try to isolate myself from everything for about 3 days or so to give me enough time to cool down and think everything through.
For all those 3 days i would fast and pray to God that i would forgive him and love him again..

I am a person with a guilty concious..e.g. if my sister asks me to do something even though i have done 10 million things for her already, i will feel guilty if i didn't do that thing..so you see I would never forgive myself if i agreed to get the boy killed or totured..

But i would request his father punishes him harshly for some months so that the boy would learn not to do it EVER again..

I believe that if i can't forgive people then i don't deserve to be forgiven myself..

God bless..x

Answer 10

if you go back to our old laws the boy would have already been killed, no point in his father pleading for him , too many prats like him around with no respect for life or thier parents or anyone else, they make a mistake and espect all to feel sorry for him cos he did, new law do the deed pay the price,