I think of evolution as something that was an attempt by SOUL to improve itself.. Can u dispute?

Question

If we think of ourselves as souls and our bodies as vehicles for the SOUL, then it is so easy to explain evolution. In lower forms of animals the connectivity to the soul is very less and they all have similar traits. Where as in human species bodies are more ruled by soul. That explains so much variation in every individuals thinking and decisions. Humans not only have different physical appearance (features) but also different personalities. Someone chooses to become a big shot manager for a company whereas other chooses to be a drunkard never even understanding what he is doing. But the same person once made to realize HIS true abilities changes himself to such a good person he can be a master of his senses and do miracles.
Then why is this dispute that evolution denounces god? Is it for a particular faith? I have read hinduism and buddhism thoroughly and they seem to be in sync with this thought. We are souls and our bodies are our vehicles. Isn't it in sync with creationism?

I have a proof for soul to some extent. What is mind? Do some wiki on it and see the explanation for mind. How do you define a conscious act? What is a decision? Who makes a decision? Is it brain or is it YOU? Don't you think something else is actually ruling even your brain. When you say to yourself I will go for a walk is that a suggestion from ur brain or urself?

I can explian evolution using soul concept even from its inception. I totally agree with religions that every being has a soul, whether animal, human or even a single cell. Lets assume we started from a single cell. Soul embodied in a single cell thought I feel too limited. Then it started mutilplying. When mutiplication became too large, different species of larger animals formed depending on the environment they were in. Still they have souls. And soul as per religion is said to be illused with the body it lives. Hence they don't transform into other things so easily.
But many times things can be miraculous when they are made conscious of their infinite abilities. E.g if you teach some animals they behave more with human traits. Birds talking, chimpangess behaving like humans etc. In fact this is not possible according to evolution theorem. It should be a slow process. How could you explain this behaviour animals using regular evolution?

J-Boy: I already thought about your points and have answrred it in a very simple manner. I have not made up things. I have derived from what is said some 5000 years ago. Did I not mention that soul, as per religous texts, has the tendency to get into illusion that we are bodies. If we start from there all creatures are carrying forward similar traits based on the environmental and social problems they happen to face. Birds are birds probably because specific group were forced to live in specific conditions felt it is best to live that way. Fish are fish because again a diferent group were forced to live in specific conditions felt it is best to live that way. How different is this from evolution theorem?
Humans happen to be the most evolved species. We are the ones who are discussing these things in great detail. We are ones who have the ability to destroy all life forms. As simple as that. What is the complication there.

J-boy: This is the true concept of soul. There is only one eteral soul with infinite capabilites. And its true self is eternal bliss. It can multiply itlsef if it feels too confined or get back to its origin by detaching whereever it has been wandering. This is what is the actual unaltered concept of soul.
It would be more easier to think of a soul starting from single celled ones and then multiply itself as it may have felt too confined and ultimately formed many species due to its infinite capabilities. It would be more hard accepting evolution by means of random combinations. It is even disputed that DNA would have been a random chance at all. How can you explain parrots speaking, when they are teached, just using usual evolution theorem? For parrots to develop vocal cords evolution requires millions of years. Isn't that right?

Answer 1

As soon as you can demonstrate the existence of a soul, I'm sure scientists will be interested. Until then they will be content with physical explanations for things.

Answer 2

First you automatically assume man to be above animals, with little proof even meta-physically since this is a philisophical debate, let's throw science out the window for this one for a minute.

How can you know that the soul is weaker in an animal than a person? The physical features of animals can vary tremendously, markings can be such as fingerprints in their individuality. Take dogs, one single species, cannus lupus encompasses all the different breeds of dogs. No other mammal has ever shown such a physical variation whilst maintaining the same species. Selective breeding can achieve similar results with some other animals such as cats, but dogs have differences in height, weight, hair and skin tone and length, facial structure, as well as personalities.

You also site our choice to choose our profession ,yet this was not always so. Our location geographically used to decide what we could do, then the skills the family possessed or learnty then society. It is only by communal living that we alleviate the individual's need to constantly look for food that allows any sort of deviation. Ants have workers, soldiers and a queen, born that way yes but can only fulfill those roles because their society allows it. So where do you establish a chain for the sopul to rise up and down from? Which is better? Is a dog above a cat, which is above a sparrow etc.? What is this criteria?

And evolution is thought of as a process, and it is linked to those that come before and after. How much choice does the soul really have? Put yourself 65 million yearsd ago. A soul strives to be human, so does a human child hatch from a pterydactyl egg? If a soul is ready, it must still wait until the species evolves, taking thousands of generations, each supposedly with a soul striving for more. If souls really were trying to better themselves then evolutionary rates would be that much higher, even human beings may have ascended towards something else, since we have existed in our current make-up for close to 100,000 years.

Evolution is a scientific process and doesn't incorperate the soul because it cannot detect it, as per scientific rules something must be detected, or evidence for it must exist before it is entertained. To merge the scientific and the spiritual is not new though, but you will find a few holes along the way.

Answer 3

This is an interesting thought. I personally don't believe in evolution, but I'm willing to listen to any new ideas. If you know the proper techniques the mind can do amazing things. However I don't think that the spirit really exists on this "plane", if you can call it that. It doesn't care for the Earthly body. This is more of a theological argument than scientific, so I'll look at it that way. God says that when you go to heaven you get a "New and perfect body". I think that means that you have a physical body in heaven. He also said that man was placed above the animals. So if that single-celled creature had a soul, and it wanted to better itself, it reproduced. Then, to get all the different animals each of its offspring had to have a new plan. Did one of them carry the human desire? Each cell would have to have its own plan, and thus its own personality. Are the souls the same now, or did they evolve too? When did they start going to heaven, or did they do it right from the beginning? I like new thoughts, and this is as good as any; in fact it's probably just as likely to be true as evolution with natural selection. But you shouldn't expect it to get anywhere in science-there's too much theology involved. But keep thinking.

Answer 4

I would say your description of soul is consistent with creationism, but your description of the body as something that evolves is not consistent with creationism.
God etc say that god made man as a complete unit. Evolution said our bodies were developed over time.

Another point: Why can't our souls evolve. For example to develop a trait of concentrating on a problem under pressure, rather than paniking.

Answer 5

I think there is a difference betwen personal improvement and evolution. I see evolution as changes in genetic traits that occur between generations rather than one individual's desire to improve. Those genetic changes may not always be obvious for several generations (or even changeable like skin color, height, etc).

Personal improvement is more of a "soul's" desire to change and improve and really can only affect what that individual has control over (health, sociality, etc).

Answer 6

The arguement that evolution is against a deity is the belief of a minority of Christians. It's not a belief that comes from Christianity, which is why not all Christians claim to have such a problem, but it is the belief of a particular group of Christians.

Evolution is not for a particular faith.

Answer 7

The blogbaba never understood what creationist and evolutionist were arguing about. God is able to pretty much do what he pleases, who's to say God didn't use "evolution" to "create" life. Poof, no argument, everyones happy.

Answer 8

Try studying Darwin. He makes a much stronger case for evolution by natural selection.
Soul determined evolution just doesn't stand up to serious scrutiny.

Answer 9

I think you are absolutely right. I am not good at biology. But with limited knowledge that I have I think you are making total sense to me.

Answer 10

what a rambling nonstatement.

First you postulate a soul without any proof, and it gets worse from there.