When you think of Feminism, Feminists, and women's organizations...?

Question

what do you relate to them? I've noticed that many people in this section (many women, surprisingly) denounce feminism and generalize feminists as man-hating, anti-religion, violent, boorish people. Why is that? Do you think that the media puts a bad face on feminism? What do you think of when you hear the word feminism?

*Please refrain from making personal attacks or being radical just for shock value. I want REAL opinions, please.

It is obvious that many people do not research before they judge. Is that the case here?

Question The System and supakoo69,

I assure you that not all feminists are that way. In face, very few of them are. All we want is for women to receive equal pay in the workplace, protection from domestic violence and sexual harassment, and the same rights to our bodies as men have. The vast majority of feminists are not looking to put anyone down.

Answer 1

I have made the same observation that "many people in this section (many women, surprisingly) denounce feminism and generalize feminists as man-hating, anti-religion, violent, boorish people'. These are people who are not media literate. They simply parrot what the pop-culture media tells them to believe. You are correct: they never have any solid empirical evidence to back them up; either that or they purposefully misquote, etc. When asked to furnish evidence, some have angrily retorted that they DON'T need evidence! Such people meet the definition of 'crank':


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It is very telling when people like Alexandra make statements such as "I hate feminism because it's harmful to society. There is nothing wrong with patriarchy--it's a lot better than matriarchy!". Again, NO empirical evidence, not even a reference to a possible case of 'matriarchy gone awry'! Very sad really.

Answer 2

Feminism may have started off with noble intentions, but it has come to mean that women can do what they want, no matter who it hurts, and avoid all responsibility, and if anything goes wrong, they can find a guy to blame it on, fairly or unfairly.

the practical result of feminims is so different from the ideal that it must begin to be examined.

Since women no longer NEED men except for sport fvking, the only benefit to men I see in feminism is that hot irresponsible bastards get ten times the milk without having to pay for the cow, while good responsible men get even less sex than before, because these men are viewed as less experienced sexually, more prone to actually wanting an emotional connection to the woman, and because normally they have sx within the confines of marriage, which is a lost cause these days anyway (what DESIRABLE women still want to marry these days and STAY married?).

Mostly feminism is an excuse to trash ALL men based on the behavior of the worst 10% of men. And while the feminists do this to men, they deeply RESENT it when men do the same in reverse and base their assessment of all women based on the worst 10% of women out there. So you can see the pure HYPOCRISY and manipulation feminists so cherish.

Feminism has been a bad deal all around and is getting worse and destroying society in general.

Answer 3

I think the media has created a cloud of dislike that hangs over that word. I believe that it is because 'ism' tends to indicate something extreme, and most people can't deal with the extreme. Instead of looking into understanding, they will take the information easily available to them (media) and make their judgements based off incomplete information. I think so many women denounce it because, in general, it makes women look bad, and women don't want to look bad in the eyes of men or other women, so they protest the ideals that are different from the 'social norm'. I think it is still a bit odd that such a stigma still exists over that word, especially since there is so much more equality now between genders than when the term originated.

Answer 4

They are all you say and mentally ill. It's not the media's fault, stop blaming the media for everything, it's their own fault. Sure some feminists were probably good in the beginning but nowadays they moved on, and blame men for everything bad that happens. If feminists were about equality between the genders why is it called feminism? Why does the woman always get the kids and everything during a divorce? Why can a woman beat her husband and not face the consequences while a man can't? Why does a woman who rapes a child gets less jail time than the man who does it?

From my experiences feminists think they are vastly superior to men. Some even go as far as to say women are stronger than men or women are smarter than men. None of these things are true or even have half of a truth in it.

They should stop blaming men, change their name to something else than feminism, give women the same punishment as men, stop saying it is ok to beat men or put them down and accept the differences between men and women as they are made to compliment each other.

Answer 5

People are bringing up female genital cutting now.

Sorry, but it doesn't cut it.

People don't dislike movements for women's health and rights in non-industrialized countries because there are certainly some problems there.

People dislike further movements in the United States and other industrialized countries because women already have so many benefits. Yes, women may appear to be "oppressed" in some ways, perhaps, but then so do men. Take education, take family courts, take the media, you can go on and on and on. People dislike feminism because most people who label themselves as feminists go overboard and aren't practicing feminism; they are practicing sexism.

Even if I am wrong and the majority of feminists don't do this, the fact remains that a vocal minority (at the least) exists that corrupts the teachings of feminism, just as a vocal minority corrupts conservatism and liberalism, thereby turning people against these ideologies.

Most people have some liberal and some conservative beliefs; it's just that the extremists ruin everything because they are always the ones that speak up and are heard. THAT is why people dislike what they perceive to be modern day feminism; because of a few idiots who appear to be in multiple places at once. You can find two or three on them on this board.

Answer 6

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Answer 7

Female view here...and thanks for the question....

The feminist movement, when first coming to the forefront...was a noble cause designed to give women equal rights in the important areas of life...the right to vote, the right to do what they chose with their own bodies. The movement today has moved past equal rights and now wants equality. My problem is that equality, like respect, is earned...not given. Certainly when we are discussing pay rates and opportunities for career opportunities.

I'm tired of the female golfers who want to play on the men's tour. And those that want memberships in 'men's clubs'. Why can't they start their own?

Feminists have become a radical group today...focussing too much on the 'women's' issues...there are far more serious issues concerning people out there...and attention and energy is better served there.

Just my opinion...

Answer 8

I hate feminism because it's harmful to society. There is nothing wrong with patriarchy--it's a lot better than matriarchy!

Housewives are not oppressed, contrary to the beliefs of radical feminists. Men and women are equal in human worth. Just because men are better in some things and women in other things does NOT mean that one is superior to the other! In fact those differences are complementary, like two halves of a whole!

Radical feminists (I mean, the real hardcore ones) claim that heterosexuality is sexism...because you're choosing a partner based on sex. Well, that's what you're supposed to do! I do NOT want to have sex with another woman, thank you very much! There are even some who go out on a limb and claim that marital sex--consensual on both ends--constitutes rape!

I do not want to see an androgynous society, and that's where we're headed. I want to see men acting like men (protective and courteous of women) and women acting like women (loving towards husbands, nurturing towards children). The biological differences between the sexes is not a social construct, contrary to many feminists' beliefs.

I say it's time to liberate women from feminism!

Answer 9

I think many women who are 'anti-feminist' disagree with the modern reproductive rights that are associated with the movement. Perhaps they forget that until the 20th century women were treated as second-class citizens. Feminism, to me, is about so much more than that - the right to protection from domestic violence, protection from sexual harrassment, the struggle for equal compensation in the workplace, maternity leave rights... Not to mention the fight for rights in developing countries, where women still do not have basic human rights. Where they are subjected to ritual genital mutilation, forced into prostitution, and where often married women make up more than 50% of those infected with HIV.

Of course there are also radical feminists who think the world would be better off with dramatically fewer men, but I tend to think feminism is about complete gender equality.

Answer 10

Maybe it is because women who wanted opportunities and equal rights moved on living their dreams, while now feminism is abused by manhaters such as baba yaga as a vehicle to spew their venom.
Also there are a lot of tools which were thought of feminism to protect women, such as modern divorce and Vawa, however those tools that were meant for a last resort are beeing absued by a lot of women, further contributing to giving feminism a bad name.
Kind of like the gun amendment, it was thought of for Americans to protect themselfs, however people using guns to extort money at atms or who shoot for money give this amendment a bad name, to the point that a lot of people want it gone.