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They're mostly young and healthy, they pay billions in taxes (sales tax), but dont receive anything in benefits; by working for low wages they make things cheaper for all of you...

I bet I would never find a white person to mow my lawn for less than $200 an hour... And I do enjoy buying those oranges at the highway feeder...

Shouldn't we redirect our anger at our own citizens who are lazy and stay on welfare or unemployment forever eating that chicken that we pay with our tax money for free?

2007-02-25 09:58:35 · 29 answers · asked by Rona9 2 in Politics & Government Other - Politics & Government

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I completely agree with you... It's easy to point the finger but we will never find Americans to do the jobs they do and If that were ever to happen, they would be asking for ridiculous salaries making things cost alot more...Imagine paying an American $8.00 to pick a tomato, how much is it going to cost us????Plus you know Americans are going to be complaining about benefits... Ppl need to learn to think and analyze before pointing there finger!

2007-02-25 10:05:56 · answer #1 · answered by Barbie 2 · 2 8

I think you have have been greatly misinformed. The word ILLEGAL surely must mean something to you. Also, everything that they do has to be under the table. Why do you think identity theft is so rampant today? Also, the sales tax that they pay is minimal in comparison to the costs involved with allowing them to stay here. They will work for so much less because our dollar is worth more than the peso. They send their money back to all of their family. They don't buy enough here in our states to even bring up the fact that they pay sales taxes. By them working for less than our citizens, this has lowered what businesses are willing to pay our skilled workers. A year ago a job that paid $20.00 an hr now only pays skilled workers who start at $9.75 an hr. They are driving down the amount that our employers are willing to pay for our hard working, educated, skilled workers. This is the fault of the employers and they need to all be investigated and fined if they employ illegals. You obviously don't understand the damage being done to us as a country and our economy. Better get your head out of the sand soon and study up on the problems that they are causing U.S. citizens.

2007-02-25 10:35:43 · answer #2 · answered by Tracy 3 · 0 0

Your kidding, right?

Yes, they do pay sales tax, as that is taken off at the register. But being unregistered workers - their employers don't collect the required amount for social security, medicare, federal, or state taxes out of their pay. And yes, illegals DO find ways to make use of the benefits they don't pay into - why do you think identity theft is such a big business right now? Even without a forged ID - every hospital in the US is obliged to provide emergency services as needed, no matter who it is - who do you think pays for that?

You would never find a white person to mow your lawn for less than $200 an hour? Why can't you do this yourself? Why can't your own kids/grand-kids do this? No kids, how about a neighbor's kid? Don't use the excuse that white people are too lazy or beneath our status to take on such a job - I as a white person who did mow lawns in my youth at $25 per lawn + expenses (gas, cold soda on hot days, etc) find your comments highly insulting.

I agree that our welfare system does need to change. There are several levels of employment in this country, and everyone dream is to make it to the next tier. But if your at the bottom, you can't expect to start with an executive position - halting illegal immigration might just free up some of these available jobs for those needing them. If your need is great, and a job is available, no matter how low - you need to take it.

Other concerns - Crime. Everyone who comes to this country illegally has committed a crime simply by disrespecting our border laws! Many who cross the border routinely, do so to bring in illegal drugs. Many illegals are wanted for crimes in their home countries. And many do commit crimes while here. Now stopping illegal immigration will not stop all crime committed in the U.S., but will certainly have a significant impact.

War on Terror - 9/11 was not some fictional event. It happened, All of the perpetrators had overstayed their visa's - thereby making them illegal immigrants. People who continue to live in this country either by an expired visa, or have sneaked across the border ARE potential security threats. If you want to turn a blind eye and take the risk - fine. I however am not willing to join you on this one!

Lastly - there are avenues for people to come to this country legally! If they want to get in so bad - get in line. It may take a little longer, but if done by the book they'll BE WELCOMED!

2007-02-25 10:40:24 · answer #3 · answered by gshprd918 4 · 1 0

Several things abou them irritate many Americans. Lets take it by catagory.

1. They have entered this country illegally. Is this really the best way to show good intentions toward a new country? By breaking it's laws.

2. Many people claim that the illegals are paying enough in taxes to offset the cost that their illegal envasion has cost. Granted they pay sales tax, and the ones with faked paper work (another crime) contribute some to the support of our country. It is still off set (and then some) by the drain on our economy in areas like health care, increased costs caused by having to hire bi-lingual teachers, this doesn't even take into account the silly costs that can also be attributed to illegals (like making sensitivity training seminars the answer for people that don't believe the illegals deserve a citizens rights)

3. $200 to mow your lawn?!?!? Not really the big problem here is parents that don't make their children go out and earn extra pocket change. But even excluding this one example, I am in favor of a guest worker program to help fill the employment needs in this country. Even taking your ridiculous $200 an hour complaint in the light of an exageration, when people complain about Wal-Mart the first thing out of their mouths is usually that Wal-Mart doesn't pay enough. Make up your minds is it really that sane to make all those negative assertions about Wal-Mart then turn around and want to pay slave wages for lawn care.

4. (and lastly) I agree whole heartedly that we have too many people sucking at the government teat and contributing nothing in return. The biggest mistake of the last century was the welfare entitlement attitude that went completely out of control.

2007-02-25 10:23:10 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

This site provides a counter to help you see what the problem is:

http://www.immigrationcounters.com/

Higher crime, a lower standard of living and a compromised economy are among the problem caused by over 20 million illegal immigrants.

Yes, most are young and healthy and having lots of babies. They are also sending their money to Mexico. I do not hire illegals, but have a neighbor kid that mows my lawn (1/2 acre) for $20. Oranges here are just as expensive as they would be otherwise, the profits for the grocer are just bigger due to cheap labor.

Yes, it's fine to be angry with the lazy folks on welfare - like the millions of illegals tapping into the programs through anchor babies.

I'd like for us to work on our welfare system - among others - but illegal immigrants are making the problem immeasurably worse. I would rather give tax money to a lazy American than a criminal from another country.

2007-02-25 11:57:26 · answer #5 · answered by Shrieking Panda 6 · 1 0

i don't keep in mind hiring illegals to do a job at a low fee of pay to affix our way of existence. Slavery replace into incorrect and alter into completed away with an prolonged time in the past. in case you had a farm and employed illegals to do the artwork so which you ought to get wealthy, you would be breaking the regulation additionally. you will could pay them "under the table" meaning they are actually not paying taxes and neither are you. while you're advertising your products to a food market, you should be seen a company and not paying taxes on all those illegals you will hire gets you 2 an prolonged time in detention center. So think of roughly that. think of on the subject of the SSI you will not get whilst your too previous to artwork and medical advantages you will prefer which you will not get the two using illegals that artwork and don't pay taxes, you do not pay taxes, and those that are right here now getting the advantages will suck the device dry and there is extremely not something left for the not basic working American citizen. I in basic terms don't get how the left wingers brains artwork!

2016-10-16 11:44:53 · answer #6 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

billions in taxes? the only taxation they pay is some sales tax and a few pay minimal income tax only because they are using stolen identities.
studies have shown for every dollar of tax revenue collected by illegals, it costs us more than two tax dollars paid out.

You can buy oranges from farmers who aren't illegal.

Oh and btw many of those illegals are on one kind of welfare or another also. And they never contributed any tax dollars into the system.

200$ an hour to mow your lawn? what do you pay illegals to do it? when one mows down your flowers, breaks a sprinkler head, or anything like that, do you think they have a bond or insurance to cover that?

2007-02-25 10:21:14 · answer #7 · answered by sociald 7 · 4 1

Yes, they're mostly young and healthy... but they also come with wives and children that receive food stamps, cash benefits, and medical care at no cost. The sales tax they pay does NOT compensate for all of that. They pay no income tax because they work off the books, and believe me, they don't work all that cheap.
I do agree, though... there should be more anger directed at citizens who are non-productive, non-contributing members of society. We're paying the same amount for them as we are for the illegals. I have no problems with those that come here legally and work their butts off to support their families, only those that come here and milk the system the same way the lazy citizens do. My problem is with ANYONE who takes and takes without giving anything back.
Before all the thumbs down - I realize there are many situations where gov't assistance is necessary, and I don't look down on those that take temporary help to get them through, I've been there myself. We're lucky enough to live in a country where the assistance is available, I just believe there should be limits placed, and incentives given for getting back on your feet, instead of a never ending cycle of handouts like we currently have.

2007-02-25 10:07:59 · answer #8 · answered by ~StepfordWife~ 3 · 5 2

95 % of all outstanding murder warrants in Los Angeles are for people known to be illegal aliens. How many Americans are you willing to sacrifice to get a cheap mow job? Willing to die for it yourself?
Illegal aliens do get benefits paid for by the American taxpayers.
My guess is you have been listening to liberals, probably in the education profession, who have been lying to you in their treasonous attempts to undermine American sovereignty.
The $200 an hour figure for lawn mowing is a joke, and millions of Americans would gladly line up to mow your yard for half of that. You tell me with that number that you are too young to have ever managed a family budget so you don't know what such things should cost. Never believe anyone who says no American will mow grass for less than $200 an hour. They are lying to you. Be more careful who you believe, and remember that liberals will lie to you to make you hate America.

2007-02-25 10:34:02 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 2 0

Ahhh spoken by an out of touch liberal who most likely doesn't live in a border state.

BTW I am a "white person" who mows my own lawn, grew up in an agricultural community and worked in the fields.

To answer your question about "why all the fuss"

1. Illegals are driving wages down for many legal American workers.
2. They are costing American Taxpayers BILLIONS of dollars in entitlement, medical and educational costs.
3. Identification theft when they use stolen Social Security numbers.
4. Drug resistant diseases are one the rise due to illegal immigration, TB in particular since these "workers" aren't being screened.
5. Crimes of all types are up on the border states due to illegal immigration
6. IN California along over 10% of our prison population are people in this country illegally. In FY 2005 LA county spent over $750 BILLION dollars just to proivde services to those people in this country illegally.

So the real question is with all these FACTS I have just listed why isn't there MORE fuss over illegal immigration ?

2007-02-25 10:14:46 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 6 1

Statistically speaking, most jobs ARE dominated by American citizens and not illegal immigrants. They're here ILLEGALLY, that's what the big deal is. And they get healthcare that I end up paying for with my tax money. And, statistically speaking 80% of their pay goes back to their home country for their family still there, which means they don't even spend that much money in that states to pay sales tax for. If they are here, and they want to stay here, they should pay the taxes I have to pay, get the benefits I get as a citizen, and pay the consequences I as a citizen pay.

2007-02-25 10:08:29 · answer #11 · answered by Anonymous · 7 1

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