Why are people so big on Gun Control? What has Gun bans really done, but really disarm innocent civilians?

Question

if gun control works so well, what about new york? they have a big crime problem and still have gun control. No the majority of gun violence isnt from citizens who buy from a licensened federal dealer but when they steal from honest citizens via burglary in home, office or car. but mostly through illegal guns on the black market. but think about this. if all the citizens have their firearms removed and only the Police and military are armed then what is the result? Its called a Police state. is that a smart move? sounds a little totalitarian to me. also, for the rural areas where Police have a longer response time? How could u defend your life or loved one's lives? what just reason with a rapist/mugger burglar not to hurt you? beg them to be nice until police arrive? how about the thousands of cases where just the PRESENCE of a firearm detered a violent assualt or murder or rape?! the biased news media wont tell you that will they? 2nd amendment rights!

Answer 1

Some people in Canada are big on gun control because they just don't know any better. I believe in Seattle Washington, there are no firearms (maybe just handguns) allowed in the city, and that city has a huge crime rate. I believe again that there is a city in Florida where the homeowner/rentor must have a firearm for protection and the crime rates are extremely low. Gun control can never work, and perhaps some people are starting to realize that. There has never been a gun made that can choose a victim, load itself, take aim at the victim and then fire. Taking firearms out of the hands of responsible citizens does nothing to affect crime except to make crime rates go up. Criminals will alway be able to acquire firearms. In Canada, it is easier to buy the most common of restricted firearms (handgun) illegally then to go through the process (which can take upwards of a year for your first restricted firearm) to buy one legally. Home invasions are already on the rise here, because it is getting harder to keep firearms. Criminals know that most people won't have guns illegally for personal protection and we can't buy them legally for personal protection. We have shootouts on our streets because criminals do not fear consequence and they know that the innocent bystanders will not be armed for personal protection, as they should be and ever increasingly need to be.

In Canada, our gun control advocates say that most of the guns are stolen from peoples homes, legal firearms. This has been proven incorrect time and time again, the vast majority of guns used in crimes in Canada are smuggled in from the USA. Very few are stolen as the safe storage requirements in Canada make it very costly to a criminal, to break open or pick a safe for example. The Media is so biased in Canada about firearms that one network actually endangered the family of every law abiding gun owner by telling criminals how to get into the firearms registry. This was the main reason why we opposed firearms registration, that and confiscation which already happened. I think the law abidding firearms owner has realized that complacency and obedience has and will lead to the loss of all firearms and rights so I don't think they will be too quick to be fooled again.

Alot of the other answers talk about a firearm for personal protection. Here in Canada, we are not allowed to use a firearm for personal protection. Our safe storage requirements are so out of hand that to be a legal owner, you would never have time to get to your firearm and load it to use it for protection as the criminal would have long gotten in and to you and your family. If you were able to have gotten to it, it would be deemed that you had it stored unsafely, so you would be charged with that offence, you would loose it and any other firearms you owned.

We do not have a "2nd ammendment" in Canada, be we do if you check into our laws (BNA act) which formed our constitution have the right to bear and keep arms much like the USA.

As for "Assault Weapons", and magazines. Up until Bill C-68 in Canada, one could hunt with their AR-15, and rightly so. One should be able to hunt with a CX4 Storm, it would be a great hunting rifle. If I choose to have a 30 round magazine for my AR to use at the range or for home defence that should be fine. Having 6 magazines with 5 rounds each or one with 30 makes no difference, if my intent is to commit a crime. Every firearm is an assault weapon if one chooses to be a criminal and assault with it.

I believe that the use of firearms for personal protection needs to be reinstated here in Canada. It is "on the books", but no one ever EVER gets the permit required. I believe our previous government here in Canada was starting with the intimidations that were present in Germany, and Austrailia with the firearms banning.

It is natural laws to be able to defend ones self, ones family, & ones property. These natural laws should not be abandoned as they have been and passed up to the government to take care of. In any free society, a government cannot undertake these responsibilities. Only in a totalitarian state, ruled with an iron fist, where there are no personal freedoms or liberties what so ever, could a government even begin to be able to assume those natural laws.

Also, we the people (Canadian and USA) have grown hopefully to the point where if I want a fully automatic AK-47, just because I want one, I should be able to have one as long as I am not a criminal and have passed the required testing to own one. If a criminal can have one to do harm with, I should definitely be able to have one if my intent is just to collect or shoot at the range or go hunting with (just because it is an automatic doesn't mean I can't flip the switch to semi-auto for hunting purposes). If I want to have a 30 round magazine at the range so I can spend more time actually target shooting and less time changing and loading magazines, why is that a problem? If my intent is to do harm I can do the same harm with 6 magazines of 5 then one of 30, perhaps more as it takes me slightly more time so I may be more accurate with my shots, planning them more.

Since the intent of Gun Control is to limit or remove law abidding civilian ownership of firearms it can, by design, never ever have the effect of reducing crime. It is a physical impossibility. It is a physical impossibility because it does nothing to target, mention, impede, prevent or otherwise stop the non-law-abidding criminal ownership of firearms.

Answer 2

I agree with most of what you say 100%. I don't, however, believe that most rational people want to "outlaw" guns in general. It is the extreme views of both sides of this issue that make it so controversial.

Basically, the NRA comes off as believing everyone should have the right to own a shoulder fired ballistic missile - and the radical anti-gun lobbies won't be happy until they outlaw sling shots and pellet guns.
There's plenty of room in this debate for a little common sense - aside from the pride of ownership, there's really no valid argument for owning an assault rifle with a 10 round magazine - it's not an argument of self protection for the legal gun owner, a .357 Magnum or a 9 mil pistol is a much handier deterrent and just as effective with a hell of a lot less chance to take out a few of your neighbors should you have to use it. And the one thing that is not debatable - if we outlaw guns, the only non-official people to carry them will be the criminals - and that's not a very good scenario at all.

Answer 3

I believe that anyone can have a shotgun or a rifle without a license; except to hunt. Anything else should be against the law.
To carry a concealed weapon should require a license. To have a pistol in your home should require no license, as long as you don't make a habit of taking it for a ride now & then! If you do & someone knows that you do carry it unlawfully, you should be reported.
Do you realize that when you buy from a licensed dealer, the government already knows who has the guns? They know if you buy a shotgun or a pistol & they know if you buy a pistol & don't license it. So really all of the legal gun owners are already known & if the government wants to have a police state; they know where to look for the guns!

Answer 4

I think that it is an immediate reaction. If they want to keep the guns off the streets, then they want a law to fix the problem. But the problem with that philosophy is that in general, criminals don't follow the law. So the only thing that will happen if a law is made is that the honest citizens will not be allowed to obtain a weapon if they so desire.

I am from the school of "guns don't kill people; people kill people". I think that if you just allow all of the honest citizens to carry guns, the criminals may think twice about bothering them. But my rational side says of that idea the criminals would just bring guns, and someone would die, and someone would go to jail. It would be showdown at the Okay Corrall. . .

But all in all, I agree with you.

Answer 5

Your question itself said it all.

Those ignorant ones continue to try to instill their absurd laws on us. I for one, will not tolerate them taking away my weapons. It really is a shame to think that some people really believe that if you have gun control then crime would decrease.

It only takes common sense to know that criminals buy their guns illegally. This law would NOT be able to confiscate "illegal" weapons. Therefore, it would be innocent, law abiding citizens against gun wielding criminals. People need to have some common sense here and really look at what the consequences of what gun control would be.

Why is it so freaking hard for some to understand, guns don't kill people, people kill people.

Go figure, but those anti gun advocates can go ahead and give up their weapons, they will lose that battle when a burglar, rapist or murderer storm into their house.

Answer 6

It is my opinion that people that support gun control are those that enjoy depending on the government to protect them, nurture them, advise them and support them.

Taking the individual's responsibilities away is paramount to allowing the government to "babysit" us.

However, it also allows the same proponents for gun control to blame the government if anything goes wrong in their lives. Having a bigger government, that has more control over the individual's rights and responsibilities is a liberating feeling, freeing people from the responsibility of taking care of themselves.

To keep in step with this idea of bigger government, these same pcg people are willing to pay a higher tax to the government, regardless of whether or not the government is capable of efficiently handling the funds.

It's all a big game.....

Sorry to digress, but I believe that those people that are against gun control, are those same people that feel that most individual rights and responsibilities should be eliminated in favor of a fat, overgrown government that will dictate what is best for it's citizens. It's really absurd.

Answer 7

I hope "b" is either too young or too lazy to vote. Were the British going to rape women & steal cattle when Paul Revere made his famous ride? No, they were coming to take the colonists guns. What was one of the 1st things Adolf Hitler did once he came into power? That's right, the Nazis took away guns from the people. If ANYONE thinks "gun control" is a dead issue, they are flippin' idiots. The Constitution was written to apply to EVERYONE, not just to people/states that don't agree with it's policy. Fight for your rights before you no longer have any.

Answer 8

im with u on that one ... the idea of civilians having arms is to deter big govt from becoming oppressive to the people ... almost every founding father voiced that concern and the right definitely doesnt mean only a state run militia .. that would defeat its purpose ... so we take the bad with the good imo ...ive never been a victim of gun violence but im sure we would all get a taste of big brother pushing us around without guns ...

Answer 9

I gotta agree with you. The violent gun crimes are starting to increase in England not that the no gun law ever worked that well to begin with but now the Muslims are bringing in auto rifles into the UK and they don't know how to deal with it.

Me, I have perfect gun control. I always hit what I aim at.

Answer 10

I have never heard of a law biding innocent citizen been not allowed to buy guns. Gun control is regulation so that people do not get the guns that are dangerous in the community. Nobody needs a fully automatic weapon with a 30 round clip for either sporting or protection. Nobody.

Answer 11

Right to bear arms is the constitution, and i was always taught dont pull your gun unless you plan on shooting..Anybody that doesnt have a felony or mental problems should own a gun, It would make criminals think twice.