Do you think the lowered standards for women to get a job (Army, Police Force) is a good thing?

Question

I think not. It's also a reason to pay those women less in those jobs because they are not as good as the guys. If a woman is not even strong enough to arrest a criminal, what is the point of having women as police officers? The standards are there for a reason. Especially considering women saying they are equal.

Fitness standards, Wendy.
I remember gym class, even the standards to pass a fitness test were lower for females.

There's a lot of things the ''news'' don't talk about Wendy. And since you're a feminist, tell me why women don't fight to be able to fight on the front lines? And sorry to say it but strength is important. If you're a firefighter and you have to rescue people and you can't carry a simple person on you're back... well you're scewed.

Answer 1

Wendy G, you're obviously very ill-informed to think standards aren't lowered for women compared to men, when it comes to the military or police force.

I just got out of the military (joined after high school), and I saw this firsthand.

For one, on physical training tests, like running the mile and a half, women got more time to pass the finish line than the men. Women also had to do less push ups (and girl pushups), less jumpingjacks, and less situps than men.

On working parties, when we had to move supplies, many times I'd see girls lifting very tiny things, or sitting in the shade drinking a soda to take breaks. Or, their superior officers might not send the females on working parties, which meant a smaller pool of people (males) to rotate each week/day in the working parties. That meant the same people working working parties more freaquently. The point is, that this adds stress to the manpower and puts more strain on the workers. If we were an all-male unit, there would be no catering to females sleeping in the shade, or refusing to go into working party rotations, and the work would go by faster and men would be less tired and fatigued. It's simple logic.

EDIT: Cabo, I agreed with you, until that last sexist, man-hating statement you made towards the end. There is nothing that suggests women are smarter than men, especially since factually speaking, men score higher on SAT's, placement exams, IQ tests, and excel in math, science, mechanics, logic, and arithmetic over women.

Answer 2

How have the standards been lowered? Can you give me some evidence that backs this up? It is my understanding that the "standards" have not been lowered. Please provide a source or link.

Okay, fitness. So what? Since women aren't allowed to serve on the front lines in the military, where "fitness" is most important, why does it matter? They are relegated to "support roles", where the level of fitness is not as important. As for the police force, does a man being able to do more push-ups mean he's going to be a better cop? Of course not. You could say that men may be more capable of taking down a combative arrest, but that's what guns, clubs, tasers, etc. are for. A man is just as likely to be "disadvantaged" if the person under arrest is stronger than him. So, no, I don't think it matters, one way or the other. If it did, you would hear all the time about "perps" getting away because the female officer can't cope, and you don't. They are trained to take down an arrest with a certain level of proficiency, enough to get the job done, and if they can't they don't graduate from the academy. Can you prove otherwise?

EDIT--They do fight for the right to serve on the front lines, and THAT in fact, HAS been in the news. And, regarding the police force, I wasn't talking about the "news" per se...I was speaking more generally. At any rate, unless you can prove that women joining the force OR the military has proved a detriment to either, you have no case. And so far, you haven't done that.

Answer 3

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Answer 4

A year or so ago, Brian Nichols was being led to a courtroom rape trial by a single female police officer. She was small, middle-aged, and I'm guessing the only reason she got the job was through lowered standards (lord know how else she would have). He overpowered her and killed her and three others before finally being captured again.

The elephant in the room during the aftermath of this ordeal revolved around the fact that no one wanted to question WHY a possible rapist was being escorted by a woman. Four people paid with their lives because of political correctness. How many more will have to die before we face reality?

Answer 5

Sorry Carrie;

That is not true. I recently took the Chicago Police Department test. The males had to be able to benchpress 60% of their body weight while the females only had to benchpress 40% of their body weight.

Males had to run the mile in under 8 minutes while females had to run it under 9

Answer 6

Fitness standards should be identical, the perp is not going to go easy on a female cop just because the instructors did.

Answer 7

There are still certain requirements women have to meet in order to become police officers. BTW, these supposed lowered standards would also have to apply to short men, and there are certain ethnicities that are on average shorter, so if there are lowered standards, this would affect them as well. It's not just a women's issue.

Answer 8

The best part about is the feminists that say we should just suck it up that she cant carry us out of a burning building or protect us from criminals.

Answer 9

I busted my *** to meet the unbiased standards that were set for my profession. So I have to answer NO to your question. I think any gender type standard should be equal. Granted, there are some women that are just too small in stature and should be screened out...I am not one of those women and I shouldn't be compared to one.

However I ALSO understand that you probably asked your question in order to get a rise out of everyone, but because of my profession, I have learned the skills to deal with people like you every day. Has nothing to do with physical strength my dear. Intelligence wins every time, and women are no doubt the smarter of our race (not meant to be sexist) Sorry --- in regards to dynamic conflict resolution I mean. Simply meaning we can talk ourselves out of a situation instead of resorting to physical force. Probablly wouldn't help in the burning building situation LOL but you know what I mean.