How come a female pointing out?

Question

unequality and injustice torwards the female gender is considered empowered and a man pointing out injustice and unequality torwards the male gender is considered a whiner ? Should men stop to seek change and get what they want by merely adapting to the new situation and playing women ? (like not get married financing the trafficing of women etc.).

Croa simply by going to a prostitute because he does not want to expose himself to the laws that apply when marrying cohabiting with a woman one eventually finances the trafficing of women.

Carrie no I dont feel like I cant achieve because Iam a man, in fact Iam very successfull, I just dont see why I should get what I want out of women in a way that does not harm them, if that means she can take everything I worked so hard for due to the biased laws.

Answer 1

Feminists are unfair women.

Answer 2

I think you made a good point with the whiner question. Although your second question was just weird. There are definitely some guys whining on this site, but there are also plenty of good men’s issues being brought up. I think that Carrie_p83 aptly demonstrated the answer to your first question. Many people still use the whole “no women in government” and “not enough female CEO” arguments to reject all men’s issues. These people fail to see is that most people are not going to be President, or CEO’s. But most men are going to be fathers, so if fathers are being poorly treated, that is important. And most people are going to watch television, so if the media is teaching boys low self esteem, that is important. I think that Carrie_p83 also demonstrated another side of the problem, which is the tendency of people to see men’s issues as a threat to women’s issues.

Answer 3

I guess it's because if men are so discriminated against, why are the majority of people in government, and most high-powered executives, white men? Do you *really* feel that you can't achieve something just because you're a man?

All the arguments anyone ever hears concerning injustices to men have to do with fat guys on TV, not having the power to veto a pregnancy, women lying about rape, female rapists not serving as much time as men, and how quotas screw over white guys. I'm not going to get into it now in detail because I'm at work and I simply don't have time, but the reason no one (including [smart] men) takes these arguments seriously is because a) they absolutely reek of sexism and racism, b) can be traced back to patriarchal influences that women are actually fighting AGAINST, and c) bottom line is, there is no concrete evidence that "gender discrimination" towards men that affects their ability to have money, influence and power even exists.

I know you feel angry because you feel your masculinity is being stolen from you, but honestly, it's not. No one really wants to marry you just to steal a portion of your regular, middle-class income. No one wants to cut off your penis and make you wear a dress. Women and minorities aren't going to take over the world. You don't have to be afraid - I promise.

EDIT: I've decided to be a little more empathetic, and give you some advice. I think that, for the most part, "men's rights" groups are looked upon as a coalition of sexist assholes - and rightfully so. I think that if men genuinely feel discriminated against, you should carefully examine your grievances, see how and why they exist, and approach them with a fair and unbiased perspective. No government organization - no intelligent human being, even - is going to take any of you seriously if you continue to carry on the way you do. The women's liberation movement and the civil rights movement were influential because they had truth and fairness on their side. No one believes "men's rights" groups have the same. You should examine why, and then begin to rephrase and reconsider your arguments. And make sure that your goals don't hurt anyone else in the process.

EDIT Part Deux: Suraj, I understand that most men aren't going to be politicians or CEO's - my point is, if men work hard enough, there aren't barriers in place for men to do what they choose. Also, when the ruling elite (politicians and people with lots of money and influence) are men, chances, are, they're ruling in their own interests. While I understand that class comes into play here, historically, gender has as well - I don't think you can possibly deny that. Re: the father thing, I know how important fathers are. I love my dad, and can't imagine not having him in my life. A father's desire to see his children is admirable, and certainly not whining. It becomes whining when men assert that feminism is responsible for a particular man not being able to see his children. I think it has more to do with what our society deems best for children, and the importance of a mother's role, which are assumptions that go back FAR before the women's liberation movement started. And no, I don't see all men's issues as a direct threat to women's issues - far from it. But I do see misogynist men demanding certain things as a threat to women, and that was my point: that people see men as "whiners" when their arguments and complaints are nonsensical. Please see my above comments in my original post for further clarification on that, and how that can be overcome.

Answer 4

I can really sympathise with you. However, perhaps a better use of your time and energy might be try and start invoking changes about those feminazi laws. I don't know what counrty you're from, but in the US, we really need a stronger voice for men.

Answer 5

Those women are hypocrites, you need to avoid those types of personalities, and perhaps interview women you are interested in by asking these questions and getting their feedback. Playing mind games is too stressful.

Answer 6

Wow, those are some pretty extreme options.
Unless you truly dislike women, why would you want to "play' women?
I think the problem lies within you, not in society. US society is struggling with sex roles and we have not become comfortable yet, but you have issues outside that.
You might want to get a MALE therapist and discuss some of those issues with him.
Good luck.

Answer 7

Because women are unreasonable and unaccountable.

Answer 8

I'm with "Pedro S": stop whining.

Answer 9

stop whining