Infinite matter in black holes, If there is a Big Bang, why would that not be finite? It was a one time thing.

Question

I'm just asking, If I have a bullet that makes a bang, then BANG! that's it! The time is short, (not 10 to the -43 seconds) but that bullet shoots all it's matter and energy in one ........fart?

Is that finite? Why am I hearing about infinite matter per black holes?

Would matter after the bang not be finite?

If I took all the energy in the universe and sent it to matter, why is there still this thing we call "space". Ok, how about we turn energy into matter and made one big star....that would probibly collapse and make this infinite matter. If I was a billion miles away from It I could see.... therfore the star would not be infinite.

It doesn't have me.

The equation is BB-Me=no infinity.

Skool me on this.

Answer 1

Related to your earlier question, mass is not the key in my understanding, rather, its density.... or mass and/or energy.

Time, mass, length, energy levels, quantum uncertainty.... these are all things that do not handle 'infinity' very well when it comes to the math involved. The math in the case or Relativity Theory and Quantum Mechanics does fine as long as the numbers are discrete. Both break down with dealing with 'infinity' and there is the gap between the two scientifically proven, yet non agreeable theories.

My thinking is that from our own observational perspective, we can't see and/or observe all the influencing factors. How does zero become more than zero? Well, if you can only percieve one side of the result, it makes no sense. If, on the other hand, you consider the possibility that the other half is and will never be directly observable or reproducible in a lab, you have your answer.

Why is there more matter than anti-matter in the known universe? Perhaps the anti-matter universe has scientists that are asking why their universe has more anti-matter than matter.

In the end, I think the net energy is zero - the net energy before the big bang was zero and is still zero - the big bang simply drew a line between what was perceivable and what wasn't. Here we are 14 or so billion years later trying to understand the explanation for the counter balance must be.

There are idea about drawing energy from the zero point field - energy from nothingness of space itself - from the quantum foam flux. Perhaps this means that to draw energy to our 'universe', to equal the balance, we have to both give up energy in own 'matter' universe to the 'anti-matter' universe while taking away the same amount. Perhaps this is where the matter and energy in black holes goes - to the anti-matter universe to fuel their own zero point energy generators?

To try to answer your more specific questions regarding the star example.... perhaps its a matter of perspective - or in other terms, its all relative - IE - relativity theory.

When you are talking about infinity, what other perspective is there than a relative perspective? There is no concrete benchmark to start with. Mathematically, any number you start with is equally 'distant' from infinity as any other number.

Answer 2

I have never heard of this infinite mass in a blackhole theory before, it sounds stupid to me. There is a finite mass to the universe. If you add the energy and matter together the universe remains constant (as far as we know). Space is expanding but matter and energy stays the same.

Like I say,
Maybe Infinite is just Finite beyond our Comprehension!

Answer 3

nothing infinite is required for a black hole to form. just massive amounts of matter collapsing into a very small space due to gravity. every piece of matter has a size at which it would become a black hole. i believe the earth would have to be crushed to the size of a marble to become a black hole. but ya, infinite is not needed here.

Answer 4

there is not infinite mass in a black hole. instead there is infinite density. due to the fact that the singularity within the black hole has zero radius.

the big bang is not like a gun going off, unless you consider that there is nothing but the gunpowder and bullet we're one small thing within that powder, outside of it there is nothing. that comes closer to the big bang but still isn't quite right.

Answer 5

Tim C has the right answer. black hole does NOT have infinite mass, it has finite mass contained in zero volume, hence infinite density. our universe has finite mass, just like black holes.

Answer 6

Beats me.
But I think that your thinking is Newtonian.