The America I love to my core is the America of its founders, not uner any God, not under your God, not under my God, not under anyone's God. The highest authority in this Republic is WE THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES.
In this republic of its founders, all people enjoy total freedom to worship any God they choose or none at all. Equal freedom. Thanks to James Madison, father of the Constitution and author of the Bill of Rights, no group may impose their religion on the rest of us.
The silly phrase "under God" did not appear in the Pledge of Allegiance until 1954, when it was pushed though by the lobbying of the Knights of Columbus, a Roman Catholic group. It is no way part of the orginal vision for this Republic.
Under some God? No way. The America I love is not under anyone or anything. If you want a theocratic state, move to Iran.
2007-02-22
05:57:36
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The Bible-thumpers who want to push their form of Christianity on our secular Republic might consider moving to the Republic of Ireland. Here is the opening words of the Irish Constitution:
In the Name of the Most Holy Trinity, from Whom is all authority and to Whom, as our final end, all actions both of men and States must be referred,
We, the people of Éire,
Humbly acknowledging all our obligations to our Divine Lord, Jesus Christ, Who sustained our fathers through centuries of trial, ... etc. etc. nlah blah blah.
2007-02-22
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Nope. Our greedy capitalist society sells sex,violence and lies then judges any person(s) that questions our religious/cultural values (despite their 1st amendment right to do so). But it's still the best country this world has to offer so I'll take it.
2007-03-02 05:50:08
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answered by Xena_fire 4
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I would only hope that the people running this system are open to the spirit of God and think about what he might do before a decision is made,and as for the trinity, this has been brought about when people refer to the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, but when you think about it the number can be much more, when the Father works through each of us, then what would we call it (The Billionaire's) who knows, every Christian expresses them self differently, all I know is that I rebelled for a long time until I felt this big weight on my shoulders until the Fathers son Jesus, or should I say his spirit, lifted it off and I could start as a new person.
2007-03-02 04:51:29
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answered by nadine_forbear 3
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You move to Iran. I'm an American and I love my country and let me prove to you that the founders of this country that we love were believers in Christ Jesus. If not, they didn't know how to word the Constitution.
"Done in convention by the unanimous consent of the states present the seventeenth day of September in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and eighty-seven and of the independence of the United States of America the twelfth.
In witness whereof we have hereunto subscribed our Names.
And then the signers of the Constitution signed the document.
"in the year of our Lord" - they didn't even cover it up with God which means any god. Up and until the 1960's almost every University and College degree issued in the United States of America used the date line "in the year of our Lord." I believe Dwight Eisenhower pushed adding "under God" because he saw a great atheist movement of Darwinism and Humanism invading our country. It so invaded this country with the godless movement that we took prayer out of schools, we started killing our unborn children and now we are approving the godless homosexual marriage. Our children are killing each other in schools. Our children are coming home and killing their parents. We have so many people locked away in prison for drugs and drug abuse and drug related crimes that we can't count the number.
Not under "some God" - under the One and Only God our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
You try Iran and their god Allah and you move to Iran.
2007-02-22 06:24:29
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answered by Jeancommunicates 7
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Just WHO would you prefer America be under?
We, as a nation, MUST answer to a higher authority than ourselves. That person is none other than GOD. The "old Man upstairs", the Creator, the Intelligent Designer.
So sorry that you answer only to mankind and feel that mankind will always display and promote justice. When a people do not answer to God THE GOD, then they answer only to their own agendas, the current power in place (dictator, king, etc.) which may not rule with good heart and fairness.
You choose YOUR America, and I'll choose MINE.
Mine will continue to prosper; yours will decline.
Gee, I rhymed!
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2007-02-22 07:18:17
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answered by YRofTexas 6
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You are absolutely right. We seem to forget that the earliest settlers were people who had escaped the religious persecution they suffered in their own homeland. They were forced to leave that home of their ancestors and risk their lives to travel across an ocean in search of a place where they felt they could live freely and openly, thinking and believing as their hearts and minds urged them to do. You cannot legislate thoughts, beliefs, feelings, and the founders of this country understood that well, just as they understood that freedom of religion had to be an indispensible part of the overall right of each and every human being to be the owner of his own mind and the master of his own thinking and believing
THAT is why there was nothing written into the Constitution that could be construed to support one belief system over any other, or one "God Entity" over any other kind of "deity" that any other person may wish to embrace a belief in. Furthermore, they totally understood that if we are to have freedom of Religion, that has to include freedom FROM religion for anyone who felt himself totally unable to believe in any "Mysterious Invisible Superbeing" If that is how he felt and believed, what right has any other person to deny him that?
The infinitely more recent insertion of "One Nation under God" was an outrageous manipulation of the writings of much wiser men, by a few religiously fanatical ones, who thought THEY had the authority to validate THEIR beliefs and THEIR "god" and set THEIR personal convictions over and above anyone and everyone who dared to think differently. Sadly, there are many people around today who -if they thought they could pull it off - would jump at the chance to turn America into a Theocrasy. Over time, everybody in this country would probably be walking around dressed like biblical figures, and it would be a punishable crime to eat, or drink, or engage in any kind of work or recreational activity that the "High Priests" of that new society deemed unacceptable to "God" Whose god? Why theirs of course.
Not only do I believe this will never happen, but with the advent of this still new Internet Technology, I think more and more people will be realising that they are neither alone, nor wrong, when they feel that it is not "Godlessness" that is harming this Great Nation, but overly intrusive, and often downright fanatical religionism practised by a loud and arrogant minority of people - who, if they could turn the clock back a few hundred years, would be wanting to snatch all those who disagreed with them, haul them off to the town center, and slowroast them over a fire for the "sin" of heretical thinking and believing. "Burn the body and save the soul" they used to cry, back then. Nobody has yet had to nerve to openly advocate that any more, lol, but you can bet your boots a lot of 'em are thinking it on the inside.
2007-02-22 06:42:04
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answered by Anonymous
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You can fight it all you want but, God is in control of His universe. He is the creator and the owner. It is true that you don't have to worship Him but, He is bigger than this earth, America, any other nation, including you and me.
PS Mother Nature is not a person. God is. A personal relationship with Him is more wonderful and rewarding than you can imagine.
2007-03-02 04:13:10
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answered by 4HIM- Christians love 7
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You blowhole. The founding fathers founded this nation under God. How do you think we've survived and flourished so long? How do you think we became the best dang nation in the world? Only by God and through God. Without God, we'd still be colonies of England. If you don't want God, then go poop in a corner and start your own country freak...
2007-02-22 06:02:16
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answered by Rubber Johnny Ohm 1
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thats just stupid! i dont think anyone should have to change the whole pledge of allegiance.. no matter when it was created just because some people dont agree with it .. JUST DONT FREAKIN SAY IT !!! live your life whatever way you want to and stop complaining about the pledge of allegiance!! or you know Move to IRAN or something.. mmmkay :]
2007-02-22 06:01:42
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answered by Anonymous
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God will always be the highest authority anywhere you go, belief in God is totally rational.
2007-02-22 06:09:19
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answered by Rhinoceros 2
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I agree entirely.
I have no objections to religion, as long as it isn't
forced down my throat (i.e. making laws that have
no basis other than religious philosophy).
Indeed, when people start to force it down my
throat, I start thinking it should be banned.
2007-02-22 06:00:55
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answered by Elana 7
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