Last month I attended my annual training session
that's required for maintaining my state prison
security clearance.
During the training session there was a presentation
by three speakers representing the Roman Catholic,
Protestant and Muslim faiths, who explained each of
their belief systems.
I was particularly interested in what the Islamic Imam
had to say.
The Imam gave a great presentation of the basics of
Islam, complete with a video. After the presentations,
time was provided for questions and answers.
When it was my turn, I directed my question to the
Imam and asked:
"Please, correct me if I'm wrong, but I understand
that most Imams and clerics of Islam have declared a
holy jihad [Holy war] against the infidels of the
world. And, that by killing an infidel, which is a
command to all Muslims, they are assured of a place in
heaven. If that's the case, can you give me the
definition of an infidel?"
There was no disagreement with my statements and,
without hesitation, he replied, "Non-believers!"
I responded,
"So, let me make sure I have this straight. All
followers of Allah have been commanded to kill
everyone who is not of your faith so they can go to
Heaven. Is that correct?"
The _____expression on his face changed from one of
authority and command to that of a little boy who had
just gotten caught with his hand in the cookie jar.
He sheepishly replied, "Yes"
2007-02-22
00:33:20
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Sheepishly? Has it ever occured to you he was being Sarcastic?
2007-02-22 00:36:20
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answered by Adia Azrael 4
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This is a well known urban myth circulated around the internet by extremist Christians
http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_allah_or_jesus.htm
The above text, circulating via email since September 2003, was written by Rick Mathes, executive director of Mission Gate Prison Ministry in Chesterfield, Missouri. In subsequent statements on the ministry's Website, Mathes affirmed that the incident took place exactly as described.
However, a different version of events was reported in an article by Greg Kearney of the Lee News Service, in which a spokesperson for the Missouri Department of Corrections, which sponsored the training session, stated that the "imam" Mathes refers to above was a prison inmate and ordinary Muslim, not a trained cleric, and that although the inmate did answer various questions about his faith to the best of his ability, the issues of jihad and violence against non-believers were neither raised nor discussed during the exchange.
It is therefore a case of Mathes' word against the prison official's. I have not been able to find public statements by anyone else in a position to confirm the facts.
You obviously believe people are too stupid to know this
"Please, correct me if I'm wrong, but I understand
that most Imams and clerics of Islam have declared a
holy jihad [Holy war] against the infidels of the
world"
Rubbish - if its true please name some of these many Imams
2007-02-22 01:43:25
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answered by shaybani_yusuf 5
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The answer is No. The Imam did not have the knowledge or misunderstood your question. We have not been commanded to kill Non believers. However during a holy war if a muslim dies he is guarantied a position in heavens. Now holy war here means a war between a muslim land and that of a non believer. However this Holy war is to be used only if there is no choice eg; Tryed convincing the enemy not to wage war on the muslim land. Holy war also means the struggle for God (as in you strive to please God by honesty,devotion to God by prayers, Wisdom etc) This is what i mean by confusion in this era. The best way is for you to actually read the Holy Quran and see how you understand it. Dont stop at what someone tells you cause its not always the truth.
2007-02-22 00:42:14
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answered by Spark13 2
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Muslims are not told to kill infidels. Holy wars only happens when Muslims are being confronted physically by non-believers. If in that war they kill infidels, they don't get sins. If Muslims are killed during that war, they will go straight to heaven without being judged.
That Imam your talking with might not have adequate knowledge to spread Islam.
2007-02-22 01:49:11
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answered by KampunG 1
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With all due respect, thins question is a silly charade, you're either making this up, or the Imam doesn't know jack.
consider this:
[10.99] And if your Lord had pleased, surely all those who are in the earth would have believed, all of them; will you then force men till they become believers?
[2.256] There is no compulsion in religion; truly the right way has become clearly distinct from error;
[60.8] Allah does not forbid you respecting those who have not made war against you on account of (your) religion, and have not driven you forth from your homes, that you show them kindness and deal with them justly; surely Allah loves the doers of justice.
2007-02-22 00:39:40
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answered by ? 2
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Holly war was meant to be fight inside any single believer and must be fight inside itself. It is a fight against anger, lust, etc....
Some Muslims made up, for their own sake, that this holly war should be against non believer.
You see we are so bound to go to the outer world that this is happening all the time to us. It is not meant to convert other, to preach to other, etc... It is meant to figt with weaknesses inside ourselves.
In your case I wold like to say that we see and believe what we want to se and believe.
And not, I am not a Muslim at all.
2007-02-22 00:49:42
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answered by PINKO P 3
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i do no longer drink nor smoke. Now examine...Why smoking or ingesting is regarded evil ? :). this is ridiculous. thinking the certainty that your handbook says so, so that is evil, maximum appropriate? Why do you're making such stupid statements which could be illogical on the face of it. so which you like to rigidity upon the sector inhabitants what your e book says as sturdy and evil? do no longer you spot you and your e e book is without subject lacking one common straight forward theory, that of freedom. Even a 2 twelve months historical new child, once you tell him or her to no longer carry out a little factor. He/she would be ready to at as quickly as do it. this is the human nature. and you desire to could desire to administration the grownups. do no longer you know which you will in hassle-free terms recommend, besides the incontrovertible fact that now no longer rigidity issues on others. must you force some factor, they substitute into rebels at later element in time. this entire jihad or holy warfare terminology of yours propose maximum useful forcible implementation of what you and your handbook experience is right and unsuitable. while the guy thinks some factor as evil, he/she is going to refrain from it. hassle-free concerns like smoking and ingesting which persons do for little excitement, who're you to impose your ideas on others. Hindus should not be there to impose a while-honored ethical code of habit for each physique in this worldwide. do no longer drag hindus to agree on your petty "do's and don'ts" variety of religious perspectives. We needless to say know what's spectacular for us do no longer could desire to be sturdy for each physique. this is the popular human will to be loose and specific. interior the top, you doubtless should not be a non secular Hindu(and a sane Hindu), besides the incontrovertible fact which you additionally can shout in capital letters :), era.
2016-09-29 11:21:28
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answered by faim 4
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Its not true, and its obviously copied from somewhere.
I remember reading something similar a few years ago.
2007-02-22 00:41:03
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answered by Anonymous
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you fell for his sarcasm, wow how daft are you
2007-02-22 00:37:22
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answered by lat0ria 3
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