Was the Reformation in England really over Henry VIII's wife?

Question

or was this just a side show to what was really happening?

protestant movement evolved into parliamentary control. Cromwell's uncle? maybe was involved even back then with Henry VIII's deal. And the parliament that was given much more power with Cromwell, set up for the running of the state by lobbies like we have today.

Same thing with France and their execution of Charles XVI

MAYBE THIS NICE SOAP OPERA STORY ABOUT HENRY VIII WAS JUST A NICE DIVERSION FROM THE TRUTH PROMOTED BY THE BANKERS WHO PAID FOR THE REFORMATION IN ENGLAND AS WELL AS OTHER COUNTRIES???

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Okay , TO THE GUY WHO WAS BEING A REAL SMART ****, YES, I AM SORRY IT WAS LOUIS XVI, (HOPE I SPELLED THAT RIGHT, SO YOU WONT HIT ME FOR THAT AS WELL)

Answer 1

As stupid as it seems, most of the reformation was because Henry needed an out from his first wife as Anne Boleyn (sensible girl) wouldn't put out without a wedding ring. So those who wanted protestantism used Henry's desire to be rid of Catherine to lead him to split with Rome. Without him agreeing, it would never have happened. It also helped that he could make loads of money out of the destruction of the monasteries and he always loved cash.

If you want more info, David Starkey's book is really good and easy to read.

Answer 2

You have an interesting take on this. While I believe the starting point was indeed Henry's desire for an heir and increasing resentment at Papal interference, some may well have seen the chance to marry religious conviction with a movement that would devolve power away from the monarch.
I feel this was more a case of individiuals seizing on the moment than a cohesive plot or movement running from Henry's day to Cromwell, because the monarchy was still pretty much in control up until Charles screwed up. Lets face it, if he had not mismanaged his relationship with Parliament so badly, then the Parliamentarists would never have succeeded in wresting power from him, and would probably not have wanted to.

Thank you Blessed_thang, I was puzzled by the reference to the execution of Charles XVI and could not figure out why I could not find it when I googled it in.

Answer 3

Pretty jumbled up question. Charlemange established the link between the Vatican and the Divine Right of Kings, i.e. the pope decided who was a king, and originally, the king could pass final approval on appointed bishops. That last part of the agreement was falling apart well before Henry VIII with the popes asserting their authority more like an emperor. Henry VIII only came to the throne at the last minute as his older brother died. England watched in astonishment as the leadership of the Church vacillated between France and Rome. Not to mention the excommunication of all the Eastern Rites churches. Mostly the royals of Henry's time didn't bother to travel to Rome for the official blessing and protested the bishops assignments. Napoleon was the last emperor to receive a papel blessing and the pope traveled to France.

As far as the French execution of Charles XVI, I was unaware the current King of Sweden was murdered. I read Yahoo! news pretty frequently, but I have yet to find if indeed the King of Sweden has been executed.

Answer 4

History would be so dull, if everything was that simple!

Suppose that the Henry-Catherine-Ann Boleyn thing had happened earlier, before the growth of discontent in Northern Europe with the perceived corruption in the Roman Church, and before 1517 when Martin Luther published his 95 Theses. I think that no matter how badly an earlier Henry would have wanted a divorce, the same as the later one did, he could have raised no support from his courtiers or nobles for such a break with the Pope. It was only the Reformation gathering strength in the Low Countries, Germany, and other parts of Northern Europe that created a climate where he could anticipate support for it.

Many authors would not classify the first Anglican Church as "Reformed" at all, certainly not in the way that other Protestant denominations were. Initially, its liturgical and doctrinal differences from Roman practice were minimal, and they only grew under later monarchs.

There is a very interesting correspondence, all over Europe, between the rise of the more democratic Reformed denominations, the rise of more democratic forms of national government, and various other changes such as the use of the printing press and the growth of scientific knowledge. They are all interconnected.

Answer 5

Moat, if not all, mass movements in England are about control and that is still true today.I have always explained to people that the reason that England would never become a dictatorship is that control of the populace is only a royal decree away. That is true whether you use the media or the incumbent government to convey the dictats. English sheep will listen to whoever happens to have the stage at the moment whether that be a royal clown or the Sun 'newspaper'.

Answer 6

For all of his 'naughtiness' King Henry VIII was the greatest King England ever had. He made England what it was to become, a nation free of Rome with the monarch as head of the Church of England. Henry would truck no opposition, which he crushed ruthlessly.

Henry once described the people of England as "My savage subjects".

The rest is just ordinary history.

Answer 7

No it was much more deep reaching than that.

The Pope was the most powerful man in the world in those days. Scarily powerful. Power like that is always going to be resented and challenged by other leaders who want a slice of it.

In those days Monarchs believed in "The divine right of Kings" - the idea that they had been selected by God to rule their country. Henry resented the Pope having the right to tell him what he could and couldn't do as he saw himself as God's representative to rule England so in his view he should be able to do what he liked!

Plus there was a growing reform movement in Europe, started by the likes of Martin Luther, who beleived the Catholic church had grown into a big, fat greedy corrupt global corporation headed by a dangerously powerful man, and wanted to return to basic Christian values - hence the emergence of Protestantism.

Answer 8

Henry`s reforms have been pushed by potential of self pastime , his desire to rid himself of Catherine . The Act of Succession replaced into handed by potential of Parliament on April 30 1534 , under the act the marriage to Catherine replaced into annulled, making Catherine`s daughter Mary illegitimate , each male person replaced into required to take an oath of allegiance to Queen Anne that known her daughter Elizabeth and the different toddlers of the marriage as heirs to the throne . On 28 November 1534 , Parliament handed the 1st Act of Supremacy , Making Henry the splendid head of the Church of england . under this regulation it replaced into treasonable to disclaim the Kings supremacy, Thomas extra and John Fisher have been carried out under this regulation in 1535 . Henry now oversaw the Dissolution of the Monasteries this introduced him great wealth , which he at as quickly as squandered . The final monastery to be dissolved replaced into Waltham Abbey in March 1540 . In 1558 each and all of the biggest shrines have been closed down ,in 1536 and 1538 injunctions have been enforced using the English - language Bible needed in all English parishes Edited you in addition to might ought to show The Act of Dispensations The Act in Absolute Restraint of Annates The Act for the Submission of the Clergy The Act of First culmination and Tenths