Hey, Oliver T, have you even read the entire Bible?

Question

You can't judge something you haven't examined with diligence.

Answer 1

Why hello there! If it hadn't have been for someone else bringing my attention to your question, you poor thing, you'd never have had the honour of my personal response. You could have just called to say hi, you know!

Anyway, do you really want an answer? Are you prepared for something long and deep or were you just wanting a retaliatory dig at me because of my silly answer to another of your questions?

Assuming you do want an answer, here it is:

First: The answer is YES, I have read every single page of it. More importantly, have you? If so, what do you make of it? Are the Catholics right? The Protestants? The Jehovas Witnesses? How about the Kabbalists? Maybe those that infer Astrological interpretations to it? Or wait, what about those that say it was just early man trying to explain a UFO visitation??!! This may all seem flippant, but I assure you that it is of paramount importance and you will hopefully see how it fits in with my main point in a moment. Something irrefutable I may add...

Second: You are wrong about needing to have read all of it to judge it; not that judging it is an appropriate term. This applies to everything. I do not need personal experience of taking cocaine to realise that it isn't a smart thing to do. I don't need to chop off my arms and legs to realise how lucky I am that I'm not quadraplegic. So it is with the Bible and every other so called 'holy' book out there.

Here's the thing in a nutshell. The premise is that this anthropomorphic God is the reason for everything manifest and unmanifest and that this ONE book is the only prerequisite to understanding. Total, complete bollocks.

If God is infinite, if God is everything and nothing, if God is the beginning and the end, then he/she/it cannot be contained within one solitary tome. It is quite literally an impossibility. Much like an ocean cannot be contained in a coffee cup, no one book can contain something that is by definition limitless. It defies basic logic.

"Ah, but the water in the cup can contain the essence of the whole ocean", I hear my slightly more intelligent detractors object.

This is true, but then, so can another cup and that takes away how special the one cup of water is, because if you allow that possibility that the water in another cup has equal validity, then you dispense with the need for churches and priests and all the theologists and experts throughout the ages! This same argument naturally applies to Muslims, Hindus, Jews, etc, etc... so to the fools saying that I only pick on Christians, think again!

The paradox that the limited (i.e. the physical Bible, Koran, etc) cannot contain the unlimited seems to have escaped all the believers out there, but it is an actual FACT. A fact is different from a belief or opinion, because it can be seen independent of any mindset, if you let it. For instance 2 + 2 = 4. This is not an opinion that I alone proclaim, it is so, REGARDLESS what I think about it. So it is with so called organised religion.

No 'isms' can hold truth, because they are limiting and separating. Christians preach brotherhood, but if they really meant it, then they couldn't call themselves Christians! The very fact that they give themselves this childish label SEPARATES them from others. This again can be SEEN. Nearly all wars in human history have been religious or politically motivated and these are because people are so close minded that they cannot step out of their own conditioning. The fact they don't see the hypocrisy would be quite laughable if it wasn't so tragic. 'Holy Wars' is a contradiction in terms and how nobody can see that killing is not holy, is beyond me.

Just before I go and the true believers out there brand me as an atheist or agnostic, I am not one of these things either. It is the same puerile brain that likes to think itself a sceptic as the brain that thinks of itself a Buddhist. Both are beliefs, only the subject matter is different. My, how blindly superficial the human race is...

P.S
Izzib286, what did I ever do to you? I didn't beat you to the last packet of chocolate digestives or something, did I? And why am I obnoxious? Because I said something that offends your belief structure? Hmm, if so, you are again blind to the fact that you are guilty of making equally nasty comments to me! Where's that Christian 'turning the other cheek' I've heard so much about? Ooh, don't you hate it when I am so relentless with the logic?! lol

P.P.S
Girl4christ87, I'm afraid you have just proved your own objection!
You do NOT believe in the Bible. This is a fact. If you did, you are not practising it's basic tenets of not judging 'lest ye be judged' and what's with all this fury you just admitted to? Not very calm and peace like to me - Christ's teachings couldn't have made that much of an impression. You probably didn't even know me before Menta89's question, but it didn't stop the fire in your heart (aka evil) from bursting forth the second someone said something against your alleged belief! Do you see the hypocrisy? Belief is nothing more than ego. It's ALL down to psychology. 'I believe', so it is therefore right.

Well, sorry to inform you, but it ain't! :-)

Answer 2

People attack Christianity because of Christianity's history. There is a violent history where people were forced to convert. There are still numerous examples of Christian missionaries forcing their beliefs onto others. If anyone attacks Christianity, it is for these reasons.
It does not make it correct. The people that do the forcing should be attacked (not physically). Generalizing the behaviors of a few onto a whole group is a fallacy.
Then there's the vagueness of your term 'Bible.' There are numerous versions of the Bible. Plus, there is much speculation as to the historical accuracy and plausibility of the Bible. Also, there are numerous Christian sects. Have you read each sect's Bible to ensure they are all the same? If so, that's a mighty task. Given the nature of the Crusades, of various war campaigns where kings and emperors captured Christian and 'heathen' cities, it is highly probable that the Bible was re-written to make it more accomodating to local customs and holidays.
In short, there is no basis for claiming the Bible is true other than blind faith, which already presumes the existence of God and is therefore logically invalid.

Answer 3

Really? Have you examined biology with diligence? Astronomy? Global warming? Anything at all? Then how can you feel qualified to ever offer an opinion on anything?

You don't need to examine something with diligence to know that it's bullshit. But I unfortunately read the bible many times before coming to that conclusion. I wouldn't recommend it - unless of course, you're looking for an excuse to kill your children, beat your slaves, or sell your children AS slaves (all in the great book Exodus).

Answer 4

FYI Oliver Twist is a character not a real person and he lived a loooooong time before you were born so ya.

Answer 5

Thankyou! I'm glad someone decided to speak out against that guy. Why do people have to be so obnoxious?

Answer 6

THANK YOU! I'm tired of people saying how idiotic Christians are because we believe the Bible. It makes me furious. I never see people making fun of other religions--only this one. That really isn't fair. And please, don't tell me "Life isn't fair" because, trust me, I know.

There, I have voiced my frustrations.