How much do the english actually know about croke park history?

Question

LET ME KNOW WHAT U ACTUALLY KNOW?????

Answer 1

prob fcuk all!!! and do u think they might care, i dont think so!!! on that note up the cats!!! :-) its our stadium lol

read this its funny !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

British & Irish Governments Plan Ceremony in Croke Park
Northern Ireland Minister Peter Hain has announced details of a joint
ceremony before Irelands crunch game against England in Croke Park on
the 24th February.

The significance of the game is not lost on GAA followers and
republicans who remember the infamous shooting of 14 players and
supporters by the British Army on the 21st November 1921.

However according to GAA spokesman Ulick Magee a plan being devised by
the GAA and the Northern Ireland office, will attempt to draw a line
under the incident.

"We've spoken to the British government and they understand the
significance of the event back in 1921. Back then 14 people were
killed
by British forces so in the spirit of the peace process and friendship
we're proposing that we shoot 14 of their lot before the match. Then
maybe have fireworks afterwards or something." Said Mr Magee.

Government Reaction
The plan has had a mixed reaction from Downing Street . Prime Minister
Tony Blair thinks the idea has merit but said that it needs to be done
properly and with dignity.

"Frankly I think its a small price to pay for progression in
Anglo-Irish
affairs, but I think the idea of getting Ray Houghton to do the
shooting
would be too much for many English fans to take, particularly after
his
goal against us back in 1988. And he's Scottish which is worse."

Proposed Victims
According to informed sources, the GAA and Number 10 have already
drawn
up a list of names for those to be shot. The list, which is not yet
agreed, is thought to be a compromise of people that both the Irish
and
English public dislike. Among the names are moaney-hole singer James
Blunt, foul mouth idiot Jade Goody, Trinny & Suzannah, Man Utd donkey
Rio Ferdinand, cream cake expert Vanessa Feltz, "comedian" Russell
Brand
and any of the blokes who do outside broadcasts for Sky News.

But discussions took an ironic twist when both sides agreed on
shooting
Belfast singer Brian Kennedy, but neither side agreed on what
nationality he was. GAA representatives claim he's British with their
Foreign Office counterparts claiming he's Irish. The Irish claimed no
Irishman should sing or dance in such a manner and the English saying
he
couldn't be a Brit because he had no tattoos on his forearm and didn't
wear Ben Sherman shirts. However there was eventual consensus that he
should be shot regardless of his nationality.

Plans agreed
The shooting will be carried out by members of the 2nd Infantry
Battalion from Cathal Brugha Barracks in Dublin . The original idea to
get the FCA to carry out the executions were dropped when they
revealed
that their rifles are in fact made of baked-plastercine and, in
certain
cases, jelly tots. Similarly the Garda Emergency Response Unit was
discounted for fear they'd shoot more innocent civilians and then
claim
overtime for it.

Answer 2

I did`nt even know that Croke Park existed until about a couple of weeks ago. I`ve heard that there was a massacre there by auxilary police working for the British in 1920, in revenge for the massacre of 14 British agent earlier that day. A stand in the stadium has been named after the captain of one of the teams playing that day, because he was one of the dead, that day is now known as bloody sunday. Also one of the stands was built from the rubble of the post office on O`Connell street where there was a big fight a few years earlier. Since then the stadium has been almost exclusively used for Gaelic sports, until recently when Rugby Union has been played. HOW DID I DO? Oh and it was named after a bishop called Croke.

Answer 3

I know that when it was built, Rule 42 decreed that only Gaelic games ie GAA, Hurling etc may be played on its turf and that 'English' games were not allowed as there was more anomosity toward the English back then and Croke Park was to be a symbol of Irish sport.
However with the decay of Landsdown Road, the Irish football and rugby teams were soon to be home less, so with much debate over the last 4 (ish) years, the Croke park commitee decided to let them play there.
And a fine stadium it is too.

Answer 4

I AGREE!! This very thing was discussed last night in the pub. Some were against it and others didn't object - so it was a split decision. If it was a gaelic match the crowd would be against it but rugby supporters(and there will be lots of unionists from the North there) will not have the same problem with it. However, I feel sorry for those players who have to stand for this most awful of National Anthems. If I was English I would want to change it. Feeling will run high about this but lets hope there will be no bitterness. But the English should be made aware of their dreadful history in this (Ireland) country, their evil methods going back hundreds of years

Answer 5

Here we go, banging on about ancient history again.

Equally, how much do the Irish know about the approximately 4500 innocent men, women, and child civilians killed by various republican terrorist actions carried out just in London since 1921 ?

The fact is that those who are interested will know all about the Croke Park massacre, and the history of the Irish Free State is intrinsically part of British 20th century history, though clearly not a particularly glorious one. Those who are not interested, which is probably the vast majority, will not know about it and will care even less. Equally, I would imagine that beyond British involvement in Ireland, little is taught in depth about British history in the Irish school system..it is a foreign country, so why should you expect anyone to know much about it's history unless they have a genuine interest?

And by the way..since when did England become the sole representative of Britain? Its the British Army, not the "English"Army. Will a similar fuss be made over the first visits to Croke Park of Wales and Scotland? Doubt it.

Answer 6

More to the point, do you know who said "We may not be very good, but at least we turn up," at the post-match dinner in Dublin in 1973? When you find out, and realise the significance, you might be able to understand that some of us can use sport as a way of establishing bonds and friendship instead of fostering animosity about events that happened long before we were even born... oh, what's the point. Anyway, should be a great game, if the England tight-five take the ball out from under their shirts! Here's to a good craic, plenty of tries and even more beers.

Answer 7

Virtually the whole of the country do not know anything about it, nor do they care. Isn't it about Bloody Sunday in 1920?

How do I know that? I saw it in my paper this morning. It had one small paragraph, in a whole page preview of the game. Mention of this was 11 pages in, on the sports section.

If the Irish want to mention or protest about it, fine. Trying to beat the Irish, after 4 defeats, is the only thing that matters to us here.

Answer 8

Must admit i knew nothing about this place untill people started to post threads on here.

I think politics should be left out of this sport,a simple minutes silent should do and then all these glory hunters can say they showed a little bit of respect and be on there way.

Answer 9

It's Irish history that not many of the Irish know about, so it is raking up all the old bad blood again!
As long as they win the match, do the Irish really care?

Answer 10

They dont know anything about it but we'll get revenge for the fourteen irish deaths when o'driscoll and the lads kill 15 english fellas on the same spot