This morning, i turned in my assistant manager for defrauding the social security administration. I also turned in her daughter for allowing her to do this. . My assistant manager is 60 years old, and she draws a social security disability check. Well, She was punching in and punching out on her daughters timecard, so she don't have to report her wages to the SSA. I'm honestly afraid when they find out, i will get fired. I know i probably shouldn't have done it, but i was afraid that if the SSA would've found out later, and then asked me about it, i would've gotten into trouble for not reporting it right away. I do have proof that she was doing this, because i did make copies of the schedule, and both time cards that was used. Can someone please help?
2007-02-20 17:55:01 · 17 answers · asked by Jeremy Medlock 5 in Politics & Government ➔ Law & Ethics
Yeah well, i'm saving my own butt too from going to jail. I've asked all my friends what they would do, and they said they would've done the same thing, cuz jail isnt worth it. And plus, i did call my local police department, and they are the ones that told me to call the SSA. They also told me that if they did fire me, i could file a huge lawsuit for unlawful termination.
2007-02-20 18:03:06 · update #1
and for all you people that said that i will get in trouble for filing a false report, if you did not read, i said I DO HAVE PROOF!
2007-02-20 18:07:53 · update #2
And to the last person who answered this. NO i did not approve anything. Timecards are left out in a box. All we have to do is slide the card in and hit a button, and it prints the date & time on the timecard. There's SSN's including or fingerprints. These are just the ole fashion timecards. . . And plus, she's not desperate for money. She draws her disability. plus, works 3.5 days normally a week, and the 4th day she uses her daughters timecard, which is ILLEGAL. I will not get in trouble for anything, cuz i have more proof than what i need. I have copies of all the paper work. I know my manager will turn in the paper work Thursday morning, and the assistant managers daughter will get a check on Friday morning. The daughter works at Wal-Mart during the daytime, so there's no way she can be at both places at once, and plus she wouldn't work 2nd shift anyway. It's way to busy for her.
2007-02-20 18:49:49 · update #3
You did the right thing. The people who bag on you for doing it, need to get lives.... Do the right thing, even when nobody is thanking you for it.
2007-02-20 18:01:17 · answer #1 · answered by Lt. Dan reborn 5 · 4⤊ 3⤋
I think you did the right thing...but it's possible you may lose your job.
If you do lose your job, document everything and get an attorney. There is a thing called whistleblowing (which is what you did) and if it can be proven that you were fired for that reason, you could collect quite a bit of damages...and the employer could face charges.
I (as you probably are) am totally sick of people who cheat the system that we pay taxes to support. This type of fraud should never go unreported. It only hurts those who really need those benefits when somebody cheats like this.
2007-02-21 02:05:54 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 1⤋
I think you have sufficient documents to prove the allegation and the weight of your personal knowledge as you seen the wrongful act they have committed. I think thats is sufficient proof. In case of a termination you can definitely file a suit for illegal dismissal if such cause can be attributed to the incident wherein you inform the SSA for their wrongful act. Its part of labor and Im not sure about the compensation.
Issues/Problems:
1. I think the most commoon defense of the accuse is that the accuser (you), they might tell the authority that you inform them (authority) to destroy their (accuse) integrity and moral persona after you have known of the fact that you are about to be fired.(this might happen after they fire you)
2. In case of a hearing, its easily to destroy your credibility by saying things which they think would destroy you like the one I mentioned above.
But dont worry remember that a person in GOODFAITH is always protected by the law and a person acting with BADFAITH is severely punished.
Go get them!!
2007-02-21 03:01:51 · answer #3 · answered by art_wur 3 · 1⤊ 1⤋
I think you're a complete *** for doing this. Although what this person did was wrong, you should have discussed the situation with her and given her the opportunity to stop. That would have been to noble thing to do. How was she able to use her daughter's time card in the first place? Did you approve it? If so, then you're an even bigger ***! She's 60 and obviously is desperate for the money or she wouldn't be doing this. I hope you do get into trouble. Sleep well.
2007-02-21 02:14:41 · answer #4 · answered by cupcake 3 · 1⤊ 2⤋
morally you were right to do what you did ....
but was it your responsibility? do you have much knowledge of the family or their plight? why she was doing this?
social security fraud is, being a carer for a disabled pensioner, to me very wrong. there are so many legitimate people who need this assistance to live. I also know there are many people who do 'rip off' the system just because they can and don't give a **** about anyone else.
so back - you had to do what you felt was right for you. personally I would have spoken to the person first. but this was the manager's responsibility if she was defrauding.
2007-02-21 03:04:52 · answer #5 · answered by pixie_proof 3 · 2⤊ 2⤋
As someone who had to fight for years to qualify for disability..I say thank you.It is people like her that make it harder for those who are truly disabled to get a fair shake.
If she is able to work almost a full time schedule,she obviously isn't disabled.
I hope everything works out for you with your job situation.Know that you did the right thing.
2007-02-21 11:12:48 · answer #6 · answered by mizzjerry 3 · 3⤊ 1⤋
I'll bet you will be just fine.
The SSA usually conduct their investigations very discreetly and you probably won't be called upon to give testimony.
2007-02-21 13:12:38 · answer #7 · answered by Jack 6 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Your in the good on this one.
If your boss wants to play hardball then get a lawyer.
Good luck
2007-02-21 02:04:55 · answer #8 · answered by Crzypvt 4 · 1⤊ 1⤋
I should think that it would be illegal for them to fire you. If they do, speak to an attorney. You could have a case.
2007-02-21 02:02:51 · answer #9 · answered by Caeli 3 · 2⤊ 1⤋
The probability is you will get a big heap of trouble by doing that.
2007-02-21 02:03:42 · answer #10 · answered by Enigmatic A 5 · 1⤊ 1⤋