Abortion = Deadbeat parents?

Question

Abortion = Deadbeat parents?

I know it is politically incorrect to say the following but here goes. Having studied the systemic attack of fathers, and now parents over the last 30 years in our social services, I note that today, the government is going after 'deadbeat' parents.

First they were called 'deadbeat fathers', now they are called 'deadbeat parents', why such a negative name ?

Consider the people who kill their unborn children through abortion, they should be called 'deadbeat' parents. Parents who do not support their children financially should not be called 'deadbeat' parents, for they at least gave life to their children ?

Bottom line, the system has been corrupted to attack fathers, now parents, (that mothers and fathers), it is plain to me.

Deadbeat parent = Abortion ?

The question is posed for many reasons.

1. Why refer to a parent who cannot pay child support as a 'deadbeat'...how about irresponsible parent. Is that politically incorrect, why "Deadbeat" ?

Answer 1

Abortion does not equal deadbeat parents.. Consider a young girl 16 who is raped and has unfortunatly conceived a child... does it make her a deadbeat parent to have an abortion???...

Answer 2

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Answer 3

Wow. I think you missed the mark. Deadbeat parents are those who do not financially support their children. Abortion has nothing to do with being a deadbeat. Abortion occurs for many reasons and frankly, it's between the woman and God - NOT YOU!

Giving birth to a child does not make you a good parent, but it does require you to take care of the child you have brought into the world and not leave it up to the rest of us.

You know what? Unless you are a woman with an unplanned pregnancy and have to make the decisions regarding your life and the life of another, I don't give a damn about what your opinion is on abortion. If you've never been there, how dare you tell me what I can and cannot do with my own body!

Answer 4

I disagree with this because i had an abortion when i was 19 and with someone who i knew I would have no future with. A couple yers later i was with the right man, and I had another child that I kept because i knew i could have a future with this man. We have a wonderful 2 year old son, and we are not "deadbeat" parents.

Answer 5

I have dealt with one of your well what shall we call him if deadbeat parent is not ok with you......sperm donor......his children are now 10 and 6.....he makes promises to them occasionally.....he breaks them always........I believe the court calls him deadbeat cause he owes a tremendous amount in back support.......but he did buy diapers when the 6 year old was 8 months......while I am thankful for both of my children's lives.....I did not plan to be raising them this way........but maybe I should call him up and thank him for being such a great guy.......and just so you know.....it's not so much the money that makes him a deadbeat.......its the fact that he cares so little about two beautiful children that he breaks their hearts continuously....and yet every time I try to protect these children from this man.....he goes to court and calls on his rights as a father........apparently he has the right to see them and have contact.......I do not agree with abortion....but your question is ignorant in my opinion.....and next time my daughters are broken hearted because he yet again broke a promise.....should I have you explain what a great guy he is ....cause his sperm gave them life

Answer 6

Um...

Has anybody here heard of "abstinence?" No? How about "contraception?"

They now have:

Condoms
Morning-After Pills
Diaphragms (A little extreme, but hey)
Surgical Procedures (A little MORE extreme)

and, if I'm not mistaken, certain procedures (still undergoing testing?) that can delay periods for months or more.

So why should one have to abort a baby? Why shouldn't a woman take care of her own body, as the body should be of vital importance to anybody, and, more importantly, consider both the practical and ethical concerns with stopping the heart of something that has half (or slightly less than half) of your DNA?

I have HUGE amounts of sympathy for somebody who is raped; if she chooses to abort her baby, that becomes her own personal concern. I have a far greater amount of respect, however, for a woman who nonetheless chooses to have the baby and give it up for adoption. THAT takes class. But such women (those who are raped and choose to have an abortion) are not the majority, and abortions for convenience (By this I mean, I wanted to have (probably unprotected) sex [but that's OK because it's totally my right and I should bear no blame for this; after all, it's my body and I can do what I want]) are far more common.

A question: If a father wants to keep (and pay COMPLETELY for) a baby that carries about 50% of his DNA, shouldn't he be able to stop an abortion to have it?

Answer: Maybe he should, but he isn't allowed to; the decision of whether a baby lives or dies rests solely with the baby's mother; the father does not legally have any rights in the matter.

Slightly biased, wouldn't you say?

People are missing the point of this question; the user is insinuating that murdering (probably his outlook upon the situation) your baby is worse than not paying for it. Furthermore, babies shouldn't be starving; we have a welfare system in place that is set up mostly for single mothers and children in such a situation or a similar one, so trying to sensationalize the issue of fathers leaving children doesn't make much sense.

You also have the issue of fathers paying child support even when they aren't biological fathers:

http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/0209/p01s01-usju.html

Is that just? Fair? Equitable?

You decide.

EDIT: Bird Baba Yaga, I praise you. Every single time I get to one of your comments I start cracking up because of your AVATAR, so you can imagine what I say when I hit the reply. Nice job.

Answer 7

It's really quite simple. Deadbeat only counts for someone who opts out of parenthood AFTER the child is born. Well, actually depending on your state up to 3 months after the child is born and can be dropped off at a firestation. AFTER THAT, any untaken responsibility is deadbeat behaviour, but not before.

If someone knows they will be such a deadbeat that they won't take care of the child (or don't want to - merely semantics), or if they are raped which gives women who can't or don't want to an excuse, then by killing the child before they can be a deadbeat, they are opting out of being a deadbeat, along with their responsibility.

In actual fact, because women having an abortion are such deadbeats that they wish to avoid being a deadbeat in advance, abortions actually DECREASE the amount of deadbeat parents! So a deadbeat woman having an abortion is actually not a deadbeat at all!

After the child is born and the woman no longer has ultimate say in the matter then it is a different story.

What? Will you FORCE women into being deadbeats by giving them only equal say, instead of ultimate say, when giving men no say forces them into being deadbeats and so has been proven to not work?!

That will create more deadbeats by our definition!

Answer 8

Deadbeat is a slang term for a non-payer. Giving life is a nice warm comfy thought, paying for that life is a cold hard reality.
Think of it this way, a girl can have a baby, give birth to it in a rest room, then not have money to feed it or money for clothes or money for inoculations, when it dies from lack of money, deadbeat parent would be the least of the names I would call them.
Real babies cost real money, and leaving the money to be raised by taxpayers is insulting since most of us have enough to get by on, but not enough to raise another child, or we would have had more. Don't even speak about the 'attack on fathers' the number of men who spread their seed around and then take off are approaching legion. they can't even afford the kids they have, and they leave it to the mom to figure out who the daddy is as long as they don't have to show up.
Abortion=wanted, cared for child

Answer 9

Abortion is not for everyone, and I personally don't like it as a form of birth control....but, if it doesn't directly affect you, why is it your business to interfere with the choices of the potential "deadbeat" parents as you put it. Besides, you contradict yourself in the fact that you call them deadbeat, but you expect them to raise the children when they don't want to. Unless you want to rear these children or suffer the consequences of paying higher taxes for society to rear these children or to later incarcerate them, you have nothing to say.

Answer 10

Overwhelmingly....its fathers who have dissapeared into the night leaving mom and kids alone (women do still earn less overall in the US) ....the parent who earns more will pay more ....Deadbeat Dads came into fashion largely for the alliteration ...D and D...stop me if im going to fast for you. 'Deadbeat Parents' is more politically correct i suppose..after all there are SOME Moms who dissapear and never send a check....
Parents who choose to abort rather than let a child wallow in abject poverty ...experience homelessness perhaps....now thats a concientious parent!

Answer 11

Why such a negative term for people who refuse to take financial responsibility for the children they bring into this world? Gosh, good question. Good point. How about the term 'thieves', isn't that a harsh word for people who steal things? I think it is. I also hate the term 'mass murderer', and how it's applied to any innocent person who just happens to kill a huge number of people on purpose for reasons of his own. It's so NEGATIVE! Let's instead call them 'population controllers'! And let's call parents who wont help pay for their children's livelyhood 'economic opportunists' instead of 'deadbeats'.
Would that make you feel better?