Is this the end of the burka in the UK ?

Question

Given that we have now seen video evidence that Muslim murderers will disguise themselves as their womenfolk, do you think that the public release of the video of the bomber is a prelude to a law bring about a complete ban on this form of dress ?

This has nothing to do with free speech or rights of the individual. The main right that was infringed was the right of the population of this country not to be bombed. This is a far more important right than the rights involved in any religous dress code.Do you not agree?

Most people seem to be for a ban, but in reality the outfit without the face covered is little different from that of say a nun. How much of the anti-burka feeling is because we see this form of dress a public statement of Muslim extremism and a symbol of their unwillingness to adapt to western host nations ?

Answer 1

Unfortunately I must agree with you.

Under normal circumstances I would not object to the dress of any faith as we should be FREE but we are not.

You must be aware that bombs can be strapped to a person wearing a raincoat or carried in a briefcase etc.

What we must do is treat the cause & there we must look at what is being done by the Americans & now the British in troubled areas of the world.

These terrorists all cannot be wrong.

We will suffer a lot more because of the shocking policies of our miserable government.

Answer 2

I think if they were less intimidating it would be less of a problem. The fact that they are so sombre and black, and with the recent video image of the bomb suspect in the burka, is possibly why there is such a furore. I admit it is an extreme form of dress, but it is their religion. Although someone abused this aspect of their religion, a ban is a bit extreme.
And has there been an attack by a suspect in a burka? No. It is just sensationalism on the part of the media at this point. However, I do think that suspicious persons wearing a burka should be stopped and searched, by female officers of course, especially ones with bulky silohettes....
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Answer 3

Would some country then put a ban on the Head dress of the Nuns and the display of the cross. I hope not. The sane persons would continue to respect the right of a woman to cover herself the way she likes. This video could be an attept like the Jurassic Park movie... as a prelude to Plans; such us the WMD bogey to decimate and humiliate a Muslim population of Iraq; and the allegation of the super-tech.know-how of Usaama to decimate another Muslim country of Afghanistan ! Iran is 10 years away from the nuclear weaponry, the Plans are ready at hand to decimate that country too. Burqa is a ruse. The game plan is different. What should be banned: The Burqa or the Nudity ? But even porno is legitimate somewhere like fornication and homo. by consenting adults. What a benign civilization of the West! All mercy, all free.

Answer 4

I have no problem with muslim women wearing the head scrafs (don't know there proper name) that they sometimes wear. The ones that cover there hair but show there faces.

I have no problem with muslims, the ones I have met are great people, maybe the one in england are different from the ones in Scotland (or maybe we are just more friendly to people without our accent)

I do think that the burka should be banned though, I can't see how we can tell people apart if they all go on the identity parade dressed in the burka. We will just see five black curtains rathers five criminal suspects.

In saying that, the police are sure it was that guy dispite him wearing the burka.

So maybe the fact he did not manage to get away from arrest (dispite wearing the burka) will work in the favour of pro burka muslims. Afterall, burka or not, the police still managed to indenify him.

Answer 5

As a matter of security, the burka should be banned. After all, it's a myth that women are obliged by their religion to wear them. Tradition commands them to, and tradition is not religion. Those who have a problem with it are supporters of terrorists or have/ are ugly wives, in which case, I would have to change my mind and say, 'Keep the Burka!!' There are arguments for and against. I have just pointed out the strongest ones of each side.
Seriously, withholding someone's right to wear an item of cloth covering their face is hardly an outrage when compared to the threat that is involved. What I say to these women is,'You can either help expose these terrorists for what they really are, Men in womens clothing, or you can fight for the fickle right to wear your 'cloth of conspiracy'. In other words, The right to live in a safe open world or a secretive and suspicious one is a choice best left to those of a reasonable mindset.

Answer 6

I hope so.

I agree 100% with Clever Investor and John Paul Mctimaloid.

I wasn't surprised at that evidence on film of that tall man dressed in a burka because I remember watching some news clips on TV one night some time ago....it was at the time when everyone was looking for Bin Laden, and he seemed to have vanished off the face of the earth....Well I was looking more into the backround of the news film and I saw a really tall 'woman' sitting on what must have been a donkey and being led into the distance by another person. 'She' was dressed in a blue garment and was completely covered from head to toe, and I remember thinking that it could have been Bin Laden.....You know 'hiding in full view' so to speak.... I know it sounds far fetched but after seeing that film it got me thinking about it again.You can imagine what would have happened at that time if soldiers had been told to ask the women to uncover their faces.........It is not an out-of-this-world possibility. Who would have thought that Sadam Hussain would have been found in a hole in the ground...... So Bin Laden could have escaped dressed as a woman knowing that no soldier would dare ask to see his face. I wouldn't put it past him.....And the 'woman' was very very tall with her feet almost touching the ground. I would love to know the true story there.

Answer 7

If Police can seriously ask people wearing hoodies to remove hoods whilst in city centres (for example Queen Street in Cardiff) then it should follow that they can ask people to remove burkas. What is the point in having CCTV monitoring in shops and city centres as a deterrent for crime if people conceal their faces anyway? This is the reason for requesting removal of motorcycle helmets, as if you rob a bank (an extreme example I know) whilst wearing one you cannot be identified using the CCTV footage. When there is evidence that Muslim murderers will disguise themselves as their womenfolk how can we justify not bringing about such a ban? As always, however, there is the alternative point of view that it violates their freedom to dress as they wish. I think the main problem is political correctness gone too far. Policy makers are so worried about the possible bad public image they may gain from upsetting a minority group that they will risk the safety of an entire population.

Answer 8

Hiding in a Burka was despicable and cowardly. Police and Customs should have a right to ask a "woman" to show her face. In fact It should be law that they show their faces in banks, airports and other sensitive places.

I would go with the idea of banning it; however, I feel that this is a counter-productive idea. It would further marginalise a portion of our society. It seems unfair to penalise Muslim women for the acts of a few terrorists. On the other hand, I'm not sure that it is a fair form of dress to impose on a woman in our country.

They banned the kilt and bagpipes once. That just helped to fan the nationalist flame.

Answer 9

I would hope so - but I don't think we could be that lucky.

Burka's do not help integration in the UK - they state separation and are a reminder that the extreme believers of Islam see us as the 'infidels'. How unfortunate and sad that after the past few years that many westerners now see the burka etc as a sign of hate and terrorism towards the west - so now us 'infidels' have been drawn into the cycle of hatred or dislike.

And the wearing of those items is all due to the Imam's interpretation of the Koran (I question the objectivity and agenda behind those interpretations) I do not believe it was ever intended to be applied in the way it is currently being applied and therefore if it is a threat to the greater majorities safety and security then lets see it banned.

Answer 10

Let's get this straight before we start, the chances of this government banning anything unless there's a quick quid to be made is minimal to say the least.

The burka won't be banned despite the fact that it is quite clearly an effective terrorism tool(and that applies to non Muslim terrorists too).

If people wish to protest in a peaceful but obvious manner then I suggest that we all start listing the 'British Imallowed Following' as our religion and entitle ourselves to weekends off on religious grounds and the right to wear a balaclava (silk for the summer) or similar.

I am led to believe that once a certain number of people actually list this as a religion it qualifies as such-like Jedi(which became an official religion in the last few years).

Our relatively few numbers would, of course make us a minority religion and as such very powerful due to our wonderful (but heavily exploited) discrimination laws.

Anyone with any requests as regards inclusions for religious 'musts' (which will, of course be optional but your other followers will smile upon you if you enforce them), please see my soon to be posted question "British Imallowed Following, any requests?"

Answer 11

I would hope so, but I highly doubt it will be - Tony Blair hasn't got the back bone quite frankly.

I don't mind the head scarves, but to be honest, if a saw a person in a burka walking towards me, I'd be nervous. Luckily it's only happened once.

Oh and to go on from what one person said above, I don't find them offensive persay, however it really ticks me off when Christians are told not to do things (e.g. that woman who wore that cross at BA) because it'll offend other religions, however they don't seem to care that perhaps telling us to not do those things might offend us. This is England - a Christian country. If people come here, they should try to fit in. There's no way we'd be able to do what we want in a Muslim country (not that I'd want to go to one), so why should we let them do what they want here. It's riddiculus.

Ok rant over. So my basic answer is yes, it should be banned.