If a woman must have a the right to choose, post-conception, whether to become a parent...?

Question

shouldn't the same right be extended to men?

If I enjoy a one-night stand and end up impregnating the woman, shouldn't I have the right to decline all parental rights and responsibilities, post-conception, just like she does? After all, I "choose" not to become a parent, so therefore it should be nobody's choice but mine whether I should pay child-support.

It seems the Fourteenth Amendment's Equal Protection Clause should be applicable in cases like these.

sjsosullivan: I'm not really in favor of this, but fair is fair. Why is it somehow appropriate to tell a man he should have wrapped it, but yet the pro-choice crowd goes apeshit if we say the same to a pregnanwoman wanting an abortion?

blueridge: People rob banks too, but that doesn't render it legal to do so. I don't care about those cretins who knowingly violate the law, my question is why should a woman have a right to decide her future post-conception, but a man does not?

rukidding: In that case, I assume you agree women should have no voice regarding matters of combat, as women are banned from combat positions.

michael: how is it apples and oranges? The pro-choicers will tell you a woman's right to decide such things, even post-conception, is paramount. Why should this right only extend to women?

Lucas: I agree with you...with an asterisk. I agree with you if you feel comfortable saying the same thing to women. Why is it OK to tell a guy to "wrap that rascal", but if you say that to a woman, suddenly you're "misogynistic" and "trying to control women's bodies"?

subcrete: Exactly! Personally I find the entire idea repugnant, but what's good for the goose, etc...

Answer 1

I'm pretty heavily pro-choice and I agree with you. I think that if it's a one-night stand or something of that nature, the guy should be off the hook... now, if they had a relationship and the guy was the "bread winner"... that might be a bit different.

But it really depends on the situation.

Now, that's entirely different than the whole "guy gets a say in the abortion" deal that some people promote... I think that that's a woman's body and she has the right to make the choice. But if child support isn't needed to actually support the child and if no relationship directly existed surrounding the events, then the guy should not have to pay.

Answer 2

ummm...did you have the foresight to wear a condom? (never go to war without a helmet)...if you did, you're not likely to be in this position. if you didn't, i can't really sympathize b/c you had an opportunity to prevent said situation. in the event that you did and she still got pregnant, then i would say that she definitely should consult you. if she wants the baby but you don't, then i would agree with a law that says you don't have to support her, does that sit well with you?

Answer 3

Dude, you need counseling. You're clearly hung up on the whole abortion thing. Oh, for the record? Nobody's "killing" anything. You can't kill something which hasn't been born yet. You're simply preventing the mass of cells from developing further. It's in the first trimester, you know.

And as for your "question?"

WAKE UP. Where ya been? Who do you think composes the vast majority of welfare recipients?

That's right.

The women and children who have been LEFT by the father of the children. Really! It's a real statistic.

Men leave the mother and children ALL THE TIME. You should do a little research on it.
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In response to your "additional response"--- THAT'S THE ANSWER, DUDE. Let me spell it out for you:
It is ultimately the WOMAN'S right to choose, because ultimately it is the WOMAN whose life is RISKED through childbirth (I'll bet you have no idea how many women die in childbirth?), and ultimately it is the WOMAN who bears the responsibility for raising the child (I dare you to deny that) and ultimately the WOMAN whose life is forever changed by three minutes of sex.

Whereas the MAN's moment of CHOICE comes when he decides to use condoms or not.

Clear now?

Answer 4

Until a man is able to carry a child for 9 months and enjoy all the difficulties and threats to life that a woman enjoys and then has to go through labor and those risks, there is no equality in this area.

Answer 5

Agreed. Some states now have laws that allow men to opt out of paternal obligations, but they must do so immediately after learning of the pregnancy and they also forfeit any and all access to the child if they do so.

Answer 6

That is an interesting point. However, do be aware of what the world would be like if there were no more fathers, because the fathers of the children opted out. Try putting a helmet on your soldier before occupying her bunker. It makes everything much more simple.

Answer 7

I have a compromise-

a couple signs a contract before having sex stating that the male does not want kids and is exempt from child support should a pregnancy ensue. he can never regan his parental rights. if she agrees she signs (he does to of course). if she disagrees he should not have intercourses with her- if he does he pays the price.

now the issues is can you sign this contact before a one night stand- probally not, but its your responcibility

with no witnesses can the document be contested in court- yes

its not full-proff

Answer 8

No. Stop dipsticking every hot girl you see. Don't be a dork wrap your pork son. You spread the seed now you don't want to take care of the fruit? Give me a break dude. If you have sex, you are smart enough to know whats going to happen. If you can't be safe about it then your not smart enough to do it.

Answer 9

apples and oranges, my friend. I DO believe a DNA test must be performed before any mandatory child support is granted. Too many men are paying for other men's babies.

Answer 10

I agree with rukidding.

unfortunatley it will never be fair. well not in this world