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We look at women in Iran, Iraq and Afghanistan as not having certain rights as citizens yet civilized Catholic countries allow open unequal rights for women within the Catholic Church to go unchallenged by the laws of equal rights for all citizens. Is it time for government to change the law for a church bent on sexual discrimination for its membership?

2007-02-19 20:53:44 · 11 answers · asked by Mr. PDQ 4 in Society & Culture Cultures & Groups Other - Cultures & Groups

By Catholic nation I mean at least 30% or more of the current population belong to that religion.

2007-02-19 22:16:36 · update #1

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The USA has the separation of church and state. However, there are civil liberty issues that can go against the church. Right now, the USA has started looking into many hideous eventualities in the Catholic Church. It needed to get involved with all the pedophile priests that prey on innocent children, especially boys. The church leadership still cover up the sexual abuse.
The next civil liberties target will be for the women. The Protestant churches don't have to allow women rights; those rights are already in place. They even have women elders and deacons. If Catholic women start going to Protestant churches, the Catholic Church will change their medieval ways, especially if those women take the money with them. Catholic women can do this, one church at at a time until the Catholic church is hurting for cash.

I will be more than happy to coordinate a radical action for the USA Catholic women. I believe women are the greatest creation by God. Remember, Jesus lifted women up.

Please click this web site. You will be amazed.
http://www.amaluxherbal.com/the_scandals_of_the_catholic_church.htm

With the greatest praise for Jesus Christ

2007-02-21 01:47:08 · answer #1 · answered by Mr. Mister 2 · 0 1

This is related to your other question, I'm assuming you're not finding what you're looking for yet.

There's a bright line between Constitutional rights and the rights granted due to membership in an institution, be it religious or otherwise. If that institution does not grant women the right to be ordained as priests, that is up to the institution. Government has no reason to interfere in the functioning of a church as far as the roles it chooses for its members, unless of course there is criminal activity involved. To step over that line would be tantamount to regulation, a certain intrusion into purely ecclesiastical matters, proscribed against by the First Amendment.

That's the technical answer. I gather from your tone and the language used that you have a specific gripe against the Catholic church. Would you care to share that?

2007-02-20 04:26:47 · answer #2 · answered by Veritatum17 6 · 1 0

<> The Catholic Church does not discriminate against women. <> Big Problem #1 - you don't appear to understand what the Church and it's Clergy are: The Catholic is NOT a corporation. The Catholic Church is a church. The Clergy is not a "job" for "applicants". The Clergy is a Calling from God. Big Problem #2 - you are not defining "equality" properly: You seem to think "equal" means "the same". It doesn't. The Church DOES teach that men and women are equal in their human dignity, but that doesn't mean men and women are "entitled" to all the same ministries. I am a man, but don't for a second think that means I can become a priest. Oh no. I cannot be a priest - even though I am a man - because I have not been called to the priesthood. I've been called to the married life. The Clergy and the Married Life are two DIFFERENT ministries - but they are both EQUAL in their DIGNITY in the Eyes of God. Men and Women are called to DIFFERENT ministries - but they are both EQUAL in their DIGNITY in the Eyes of God. <> #1 - The Catholic Church is NOT a store. #2 - Walmart doesn't have such a policy. <> The Bill of Rights in the Constitution is what prevents the government from having any authority over organized religion - but that's only relevant to the United States. There are other - much POORER - places in the world where the Catholic Church maintains it's all-male ministry; in places where money is so scarce as to be irrelevant. So obviously, money has nothing to do with it.

2016-05-23 22:08:04 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Pastor Billy says: you have got to be kidding. sexual discrimination? Catholicism teaches everyone has a vocation.
With the honor of Mary by Catholicism you claim discrimination? my friend you'd be laughed out of court. Can men be mothers? With that answer neither can women be fathers, hence the only thing women cannot be in the Catholic Church are priests who are spiritual fathers and during the Mass are 'persona Christi' and no one can change that as it was God given. I've had Catholic women as teachers, Catholic women as preachers, Catholic women as administrators etc etc etc....

frankly you need to grind your axe elsewhere try the fire department.

2007-02-21 08:38:37 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

The catholic church is spiritually superior in law over ANY state participant, and it is seperate from (although generally compliant to) the laws of men.

What you propose is not equality, it is persecution of the church. Even if such a law were passed, the church would be obligated to disregard that law as having any validity and nothing would be done towards ordination of women (which is a sacrilage, not a God given right).

2007-02-20 04:44:46 · answer #5 · answered by promethius9594 6 · 0 0

Sexism is against the teachings of Jesus Christ and the Catholic Church:

Created in the image of the one God and equally endowed with rational souls, all men have the same nature and the same origin. Redeemed by the sacrifice of Christ, all are called to participate in the same divine beatitude: all therefore enjoy an equal dignity.

The equality of men rests essentially on their dignity as persons and the rights that flow from it:

Every form of social or cultural discrimination in fundamental personal rights on the grounds of sex, race, color, social conditions, language, or religion must be curbed and eradicated as incompatible with God's design.

http://www.usccb.org/catechism/text/pt3sect1chpt2art3.htm#1934

The one exception is the ordination of women. The Catechism of the Catholic Church currently states:

The Lord Jesus chose men to form the college of the twelve apostles, and the apostles did the same when they chose collaborators to succeed them in their ministry.

The Church recognizes herself to be bound by this choice made by the Lord himself. For this reason the ordination of women is not possible.

http://www.usccb.org/catechism/text/pt2sect2chpt3.htm#1577

With love in Christ.

2007-02-20 16:17:28 · answer #6 · answered by imacatholic2 7 · 0 0

The USA is not a Catholic country, and according to the constitution cannot interfere in religion.

2007-02-19 20:56:58 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 2 0

Separation of Church and State.

2007-02-19 20:56:16 · answer #8 · answered by Dfirefox 6 · 1 1

The Pope and the Vatican set the rules. If women feel Catholicism is sexist, they have the freedom to find another religion.

2007-02-19 22:01:55 · answer #9 · answered by Debra D 7 · 1 1

If you're talking about women and the priesthood, check out this link:

http://catholic.com/library/Women_and_the_Priesthood.asp

2007-02-20 05:17:07 · answer #10 · answered by Danny H 6 · 0 0

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