how are women realy being "opressed"??

Question

i realy dont see how. i mean are you realy whining about men getting 20cents more than you on his paycheck?? im a man and if a woman got 20 cents more then me, then who cares!!! what is that gonna get you? its loose change that will get lost in the washer

hari prasad: men are also opressed then. considering women accuse them of being demeaning and "sexist pigs" and think with there penises. but am i complaing about it?? NO!! if that is your definition of being opressed then everybody in the human race is opressed.

and BTW. where is men studies??

Answer 1

What is twenty cents over a year...over a lifetime? A LOT! And definitely more than "loose change." It can mean the difference between a comfortable retirement or living on a fixed income. And money aside, don't you understand that it's the principle? If we ARE equal, and are not being oppressed in a very understated, yet pervasive way, then why AREN'T we paid the same? That is the real question, and to dismiss it is to dismiss the fundamental aspects of equality all together.

Answer 2

Maybe you need to ask women in Africa, Egypt, Turkey, Iraq, there are many other countries too where female circumcision goes on.....Or where a woman can be killed by a male family member, and he goes unpunished as it is a honor killing to protect his family from her shame, because she wanted to leave her abusive husband. All I see here though is you whining about getting 20 cents more in your paycheck. Maybe instead of loosing it in the wash weekly you could read up on the causes above and make a donation to these oppressed women who need all the help they can get. To them 20 cents may be the chance to escape death.

Here is a good place for you to start: Female Genital Mutilation Network

Answer 3

everyone is being opressed in some way or another... maybe i dont get that 20 cents or maybe i dont get that respect in the office but you as a man can be, as you said, view constantly as a sexist pig or something of the sort... the thing is women have been oppressed a lot through out history but overall people dont understand other people and this leads to oppression wherever you look

Answer 4

Why do women keep complaining about the "Wage Gap?"

Have you stopped to consider that it doesn't make any sense?

If women were being payed less than men for EXACTLY the same job, there would be an outrage.

The reasons for a "wage gap" are simple:

1) Women take more time off than men on average.

2) Women choose to work in such jobs and ones with more job security and benefits. (It's not my place right now to say why, just that it is generally a fact.)

3) Women, as a result, tend not to occupy the extremely upper level jobs, even though (from the last time I checked) 10 women are Fortune 500 CEOs. If you REALLY want to complain about something, look at the fact that, as of now, only 4 of the Fortune 500 CEOs are black. You don't see black people clamoring about some sort of "wage gap," though, do you? In any event, the high salaries of men such as these and others who work at a job for a long amount of time are certainly bound to be higher than women who work only part time or switch careers.

According to the U.S. Department of Labor:

http://www.dol.gov/wb/stats/main.htm

There were 65.8 million employed women in the U.S. in 2005. Seventy-five percent worked full time, while the remaining 25 percent worked part time.

This site compares the two:

http://books.google.com/books?id=NeBU31Y5XPEC&pg=RA1-PA125&lpg=RA1-PA125&dq=percent+of+men+working+part+time&source=web&ots=UpC9Td4cAA&sig=jyKAQT7Z1P7ZnK-ZeLSlzD5q_Gs

In summary, you can't judge statistics of TOTAL wealth divided by hour as painting "the whole picture" as so many of the feminist posters like to say: There are all sorts of differences between the way men and women work on average that trying to compare the two in terms of sheer wage is like trying to compare apples and oranges.

Answer 5

Men and women are paid the same for the same work when everything else is the same such as tenure, education, hours worked, danger, dedication, etc.
What brings out the difference is when feminists compare the income of the newly hired, part-time cashier at Wal-Mart with the guy who's been operating heavy equipment for 15 years.
You never hear them complaining that men make up 95% of workers killed on the job. There's REAL discrimination. Why? Because men take on the dirty and dangerous jobs that women refuse. They would rather compare the wages of an explosives expert in a mine with a part-time office worker and claim discrimination.
They take examples like a man enters into the work force at age 18-24 and after 20 years compare it to the woman that enters the workforce at the same age, takes a few months/years off work to produce/care for kids then returns only to miss work often due to PTA meetings, sick kids, medical appointments, etc., then say there is a wage disparity. Feminists want women paid as if they worked like men, which they don't, as a rule. When like is compared to like, women are paid as well as men and depending on the particular job, often better. It's just more feminist whining because they are expected to pull their own, often massive weight in the world.
Then there's the choices in becoming a parent. Feminism demands "oops" for women when they find themselves pregnant but deny men the same opportunity to deny becoming a parent. Women have the right to abort a pregnancy; the right to abandon an infant; the ability to adopt the child out to others; the ability to keep the child and demand the other parent pay them. Men don't have any of these choices but somehow feminists see this as oppression of women.
Women are considered a full parent upon birth. Men are IF the mother agrees or he has the funding to file suit in court to force legalization of the title "parent". Even then, he is never a full and equal parent. Women in divorce are named as sole parent in more than 80% of cases. Dad is just a financier, with or without his agreement and without the ability to be a full and equal parent, even with joint legal custody.
Lets talk about false charges of abuse, rape and paternity. This only applies to women charging men. Some men only find out they have been raising some other man's children after 20-30 years, many never find out. Estimates of paternity fraud run from 5-35% of all pregnancies. False charges of abuse is one of the tools any good divorce lawyer will advise their client to utilize to remove the father from the home. Feminists and "women's shelters" see domestic abuse as anything that pisses off the woman including slamming a door, raising one's voice or even self-defense when a man is attacked.
Compare the fact that women are about as likely to commit domestic abuse with the numbers of shelters for men and women.
Every state and the federal government has specific agencies to advance women's choices and abilities; jobs, business assistance, domestic abuse, etc., yet none have any specifically for men.
Women are being oppressed but by feminism, not by men. Feminism is telling women they are like children and need special rights and privleges in order to be equal to men. Feminism is telling women they are too stupid to earn a living equal to men without crutches such as affirmative action. In short, feminism is a bane to women.

Answer 6

Funny how none of the women commented on the sexist pig thing.

I guess it's just women's way to always complain.

Answer 7

not giving them their due share in all spheres of activities - an act of unequal treatment - underestimating their physical ablility - not recognising their mental strength - demeaning their distinctive quallitiies mother nature has given to them

Answer 8

Don't ask that of a liberal or a femiNazi. They will lie to you. Ask a Musilm woman.

Answer 9

Its not equal dumbass

Answer 10

I won't even bring up the point of 'principle'; it is abundantly clear that is not on your list of 'important things' to take into account. However, you don’t seem to realize that if the women working alongside you are are earning less – that translates into a lower salary for YOU TOO:

"THE WAGE GAP FAVORING MEN DOESN’T JUST HURT WOMEN’S PAY, ACCORDING TO NEW RESEARCH"

Pay of Both Men and Women Managers is Less When Managers’ Subordinates, Peers and Supervisors are Women, Study Finds

'WASHINGTON — A new study on managerial pay involving more than 2,000 managers from more than 500 organizations finds that not only do women managers earn approximately nine percent less than male managers, but that pay of both men and women managers is also related to the gender and age of those they work with. The study finds that managerial pay is lower when the manager’s referent group (subordinates, peers or supervisors) is largely female, when subordinates are outside the prime age group, and when peers and supervisors are younger. The findings are published in the August issue of the American Psychological Association’s (APA) Journal of Applied Psychology.

“Beyond the general wage gap between men and women, the findings suggest that salaries for both male and female managers are less when they supervise, work with, or are supervised by females,” according to study authors Cheri Ostroff, Ph.D., of Teachers College, Columbia University and Leanne E. Atwater, Ph.D., of Arizona State University West. “For example, male or female managers whose subordinate group is largely women suffer significantly in compensation levels compared to managers who supervise a majority of men. Similarly, a manager who supervises predominately older workers also receives less pay than one who supervises workers predominately around the age of 40,” say the researchers.

The study sample included data from 2,178 managers from 512 different companies across a wide variety of industries and functional areas. The manager’s sex, age, race, organizational level, experience, education, performance and functional area (e.g., sales, engineering, operations, marketing, human resources) were taken into account prior to examining the effect of the gender and age composition of managers’ referent groups.

Specific findings regarding gender and pay indicate that:

- Managerial pay becomes substantially lower as the percentage of females that the manager supervises increases. For example, on average, a male or female manager whose subordinate group is comprised of 80% female receives approximately $7,000 less in pay than a manager whose subordinate group is 80% male.
- Managerial pay remains relatively constant when the percentage of females that the manager supervises is less than 50%. However, once females become the majority in the workgroup, both male and female managers pay decreases sharply as the percentage of female subordinates in the workgroup increases. For example, a manager who supervises a group comprised of all women receives approximately $9,000 less than one who supervises a group comprised of 50% women.
- On average, managerial pay decreases by approximately $500 for each 10% increase in the percentage of his or her female peers.
- On average, a manager whose supervisor is female receives approximately $2,000 less pay than one whose supervisor is male.

Specific findings regarding age and pay indicate that:

- As the average age of a manager’s subordinates become younger or older than 40, the manager’s pay becomes lower. For example, a manager who supervises employees aged 30 on average receives approximately $4,000 less pay than a manager whose employees are around age 40; a manager who supervises a group of 50 year old employees on average receives approximately $4,000 less pay than a manager whose subordinates are around age 40.
- Managers whose peer group is younger than age 40 on average receive lower pay than managers whose peer group is over 40.
- Managers whose supervisor is younger than 40 receive lower pay than managers whose supervisor is over 40.

“One explanation for the negative affect on a manager’s pay based on the gender of their subordinates, peers and supervisors is that women are perceived as less valuable in the workplace...“Women may also receive less authority and power in their positions than men, thereby receiving fewer of the resources they need to contribute in more substantial and valued ways in the organizations. And women managers are more likely than male managers to work with and supervise other women, hence reducing their compensation even further,” added the researchers.

Similar results were observed with respect to the ages of a manager’s subordinates. Managers with subordinates outside the prime age group (i.e., younger or older than 40) received lower pay and the perceived value of workers is also a likely explanation for this trend, according to the study. “Younger workers are likely to be viewed as less valuable due to lesser experience or firm specific skills, hence those who supervise them are also likely to be seen as having lesser value,” according to Drs. Ostroff and Atwater. “Older workers are likely to be perceived as contributing less – deserved or not – due to negative stereotypes about their competence and motivation.”
Top managers should investigate the extent to which this type of discrimination is occurring in their organizations, according to the authors, and take steps to understand the reasons for it and to correct the disparities.'

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You ask "and BTW. where is men studies??" you need to ask Yahoo about that: there has been some discussion already. Women like myself are tired of the CRANKS who come here to winge, moan, complain, whine whine whine, complain, moan...